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Flight Instructor Rating

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I am thinking of tackling the Flight Instructor Rating. How long does it usually take to complete? How hard is it compared to the Instrument Rating or CPL? What did it cost? How hard is the written and practical exam? If you could add anything else that would help it would be appreciated.
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It will be the hardest rating you will get. There is a lot of working in prepping lesson plans, and then revising them, and then practicing teaching them to a mirror, and then finally to your Class 1 instructor. It is also very intimidating as you realize that you don't know as much as you thought that you know. The plus side is that it will make you a much better and more conscientious pilot, and honestly the work is very rewarding (not necessarily financially rewarding, but emotionally as you see students come back from first solo's for example).

I took 3 months to do mine while I was in Flight College, and it cost around 7000$, about 35 hours flight time plus lots of ground time, but that was in the mid 90's. The exams aren't really that hard as you should be really prepared for them by the time you've done all the lesson plans.

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I'm doing mine now but have been put on hold because TC is not doing any Instructor flight exams.

So...just a word to the wise. But everything you can easily do.

Def a good option and as robshelle said, about 9ish k (I'm in Alberta) and def humbling! And I'm only through the ground portion due to no point in flying because of .... lol

So good luck!
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Tuza wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:18 pm I'm doing mine now but have been put on hold because TC is not doing any Instructor flight exams.

In Ontario at least, independent Pilot Examiners are conducting flight tests for instructor ratings. I don't know about the rest of the country. It's business as usual here except for the long wait times for written exams at Transport. However, there is an exemption that allows the flight test to proceed without first having completed the written exam. You just can't get the rating signed off until the written exam is completed.
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Robshelle is pretty much right. You can complete it in the minimum hours but will likely take a lot more ground time. There is also a lot of prep work for lesson plans. You can get some from other but will likely find that they don’t work for you and will make your own.

The big thing that I have found is your flying skills. As a CPL you can likely fly well because all of your attention is on flying. As an instructor though, the flying has to be second nature and your attention is now directed to instructing. Your flying skills for the first half of the instructor rating will likely be below the PPL level. It returns quickly though as you get more used to instructing and flying at the same time. By the time you have your recommend you’ll hopefully be back where you were at your CPL flight test.
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What are you going to do after you get the rating? As a Class IV instructor, you're pretty much useless: you can't do anything on your own, you have to be supervised by and work for a Flight Training Unit. Is that your plan? You don't have to discuss it here, but you should know what it is.
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Also, as already posted and I should have mentioned this yesterday, there is an enormous amount of lesson planning prep! I started mine before May which was when I was supposed to start. Then it got pushed to June, then July, and here we are.

I had lessons with a different Class 1 late last yr but had to stop because of personal reasons.

I have 2 3" binders full of lesson plans including a 3rd with the guides. I am doing the Sharper Edge Instructor exam prep book and I have 3 kids whom I'm also now online homeschooling. So.... it's busy and there is still lots to do, but as for @Aviatard - I didn't know there were independent examiners - mine is a Class 1 and also examiner but he said TC is closed for just Instructor Flight exams so super interesting that that is not a Canada wide thing. I do know they are taking written examers and that's only just recent.

Too bad as I'm from Ontario originally! Haha

Anyway @Found - just prep and go for it and you will know in the first 2 weeks if this is for you or not. I mean I have no idea, neither does anyone else here but it IS a tremendous amt of work!

Having said that, I'm pretty sure that's why most pilots stay pilots. But who knows. Haha. Maybe it's just the moola.

Cheers!
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photofly wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:38 am What are you going to do after you get the rating? As a Class IV instructor, you're pretty much useless: you can't do anything on your own, you have to be supervised by and work for a Flight Training Unit. Is that your plan? You don't have to discuss it here, but you should know what it is.
:lol: And last thing @found - you're not useless. At least in Alberta and Ontario - as aviatard said - there is plenty of work. Although obviously Covid has put a dent in that.

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Tuza wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:18 pm I'm doing mine now but have been put on hold because TC is not doing any Instructor flight exams.
I would suggest you contact the nearest TC inspector about this. I can think of a few examiners who can do initial instructor rating flight tests. Harv Penner at Harv's Air in MB, Lenora Crane at the Club here at Springbank among others who can do all the way up to Class 1 flight tests.

TC used to have a splendid page on their website where you could search for Pilot Examiners based on what tests they could do. Too bad it got taken down in the midst of the move to Canada.ca and the CARs moving to Justice.gc.ca
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praveen4143 wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:04 am
Tuza wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:18 pm I'm doing mine now but have been put on hold because TC is not doing any Instructor flight exams.
I would suggest you contact the nearest TC inspector about this. I can think of a few examiners who can do initial instructor rating flight tests. Harv Penner at Harv's Air in MB, Lenora Crane at the Club here at Springbank among others who can do all the way up to Class 1 flight tests.

TC used to have a splendid page on their website where you could search for Pilot Examiners based on what tests they could do. Too bad it got taken down in the midst of the move to Canada.ca and the CARs moving to Justice.gc.ca
So I just checked and you're right Lenora (whom I actually know from my CYXH days) is doing them! My bad. I had info from a few weeks ago so, I guess the tide is changing. I'm guessing just her though by the sounds of it. Besides Penner.

Anyway, I'll drop out now. 😂
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Is there even really a point in doing an FI rating right now? I haven’t seen an instructor posting in ages and there’s tons of laid off airline pilots who are returning to instructing, including where I trained. I’m getting the impression that I’d be wasting 10k if I did it, but maybe the schools just don’t post ads and simply hire their students. I’d be curious to hear the thoughts of other instructors on the hiring prospects.
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Schools typically hire their students.
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