Turnaround time for first Aviation Medical

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Re: Turnaround time for first Aviation Medical

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FL290 wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:35 pm
I just upgraded from a Cat 3 to Cat 1. I saw the CAME on October 1st and just received the new sticker in the mail today. I am in the Atlantic Region.
Someone must like you, even the supervisor from the local TC office can't get an answer from M.C. in Ottawa
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Re: Turnaround time for first Aviation Medical

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photofly wrote:
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Time to write to the Minister. Seriously.
Yup, my flight instructor told me to write an email to my MP and the Minister. My MP responded, Minister didn't. They said they will try to look into the issue and expedite it.
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Re: Turnaround time for first Aviation Medical

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I managed to find the number for the actual Dr and called her, had my medical sorted out in a day with M.C. cut out of the middle.
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Re: Turnaround time for first Aviation Medical

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EastCoastWings wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:10 pm
I managed to find the number for the actual Dr and called her, had my medical sorted out in a day with M.C. cut out of the middle.
Three months later and still waiting.

I did as you mentioned last month and I believe it somewhat helped push my file to Ottawa for review. I've since given additional reports to TC but what kills me is the archaic nature of the process.

Ottawa needs further reports so the process is as such...

Ottawa mails Toronto office
Toronto office mails me
I mail Toronto office
Toronto office mails Ottawa

This is easily a one month wait.... And in 2019, when encrypted email, fax, cell phones are available, it's certainly very frustrating.

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Re: Turnaround time for first Aviation Medical

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And they do NOT care that there are job possibilities waiting while they do this.
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Re: Turnaround time for first Aviation Medical

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Are you saying that delays are also normal during renewals? So if you are over 40 with a Cat I (validity 12 months), would you then go and do your check up at the 9-month mark to allow for a 3-month buffer?
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Re: Turnaround time for first Aviation Medical

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Renewals are instant, valid as soon as the CAME stamps your ADB or certificate.
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Re: Turnaround time for first Aviation Medical

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Pilotdaddy wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:20 pm
EastCoastWings wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:10 pm
I managed to find the number for the actual Dr and called her, had my medical sorted out in a day with M.C. cut out of the middle.
Three months later and still waiting.

I did as you mentioned last month and I believe it somewhat helped push my file to Ottawa for review. I've since given additional reports to TC but what kills me is the archaic nature of the process.

Ottawa needs further reports so the process is as such...

Ottawa mails Toronto office
Toronto office mails me
I mail Toronto office
Toronto office mails Ottawa

This is easily a one month wait.... And in 2019, when encrypted email, fax, cell phones are available, it's certainly very frustrating.

/rant
I feel ya, once TC decides they want additional information, the whole process is archaic. I submitted an official complaint with TC and they replied back that "Civil Aviation Medicine is currently in a period of transformation with initiatives underway to enhance service delivery".... I'll believe it when I see it :roll:
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Re: Turnaround time for first Aviation Medical

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Ninety-six days later and I am finally approved for the Cat 1! Given the two round trips of my file to Ottawa for further review, I guess it wasn't too bad after all, considering some of you have also been waiting for months and have fewer complications.
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Re: Turnaround time for first Aviation Medical

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I’m going for my initial cat 3 medical next week. Should I be expecting the same wait times? Is it just the AME that evaluates you or do they request your medical records from your family dr as well and then make the decision?
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Re: Turnaround time for first Aviation Medical

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I believe 90 days is the standard wait. The AME evaluates you but, if I remember correctly, it goes up to the regional doctor for final approval if it's your first one versus just a renewal. Also, for the initial, you need a ECG. I suggest you get that ECG before you even see the AME and then line up any documentation from your family doctor if you think that there are issues that may need to be looked upon deeper by TC. That way, you cut the back and forth. They only correspond via snail mail and it adds weeks to the process whenever they request additional testing or reports from your family doctor.
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Re: Turnaround time for first Aviation Medical

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I don’t think most people need an ECG until they’re 40. Most CAME offices are set up to do an ECG at your appointment, so I wouldn’t trouble about it in advance unless you know you have a borderline cardiac condition.
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Re: Turnaround time for first Aviation Medical

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photofly wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:55 am
I don’t think most people need an ECG until they’re 40. Most CAME offices are set up to do an ECG at your appointment, so I wouldn’t trouble about it in advance unless you know you have a borderline cardiac condition.

My CAME didn't have one on site so maybe I just lucked out. I did have a borderline condition as you know so I had those tests beforehand. For Cat 1, I believe the ECG is necessary even for folks younger than 40... For Cat 3, you get a pass until 40, at which point you have to do it anyway within a few years. I wonder what happens if you get a Cat 3 say at 20 years and then fail the ECG at say 43 years of age? I guess the revoke, appeal, re-appeal process with TC begins?
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Re: Turnaround time for first Aviation Medical

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Cat 3 medical was done on Jan 2nd and I called Transport Canada today and found out that it was approved yesterday. So a tad bit over 3 months.
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