Multi ifr training hours

[rotorspeed]

Transport says you need 20 hours dual instruction, subpart says must have 5 hours in type. Does that mean 5 hours dual training in multi engine, and the rest can be in single engine. Some schools quote 10 dual multi and 10 dual single instrument training. Others quote 20 dual multi instrument.

[Aviatard]

421.46(b) Experience
An applicant shall have completed a minimum of:

(i) 50 hours of cross-country flight as pilot-in-command in aeroplanes or helicopters of which 10 hours must be in the appropriate category; and

(ii) 40 hours of instrument time of which a maximum of 20 hours may be instrument ground time. The 40 hours instrument time shall include a minimum of:
(A) 5 hours of dual instrument flight time acquired from the holder of a flight instructor rating ,
(B) 5 hours in aeroplanes where the applicant is applying for a Group 1, 2 or 3 instrument rating or in helicopters where the applicant is applying for a Group 4 instrument rating,
(C) Fifteen (15) hours of dual instrument flight time provided by a qualified person as specified in section 425.21(9); and
(amended 1998/03/23)
(D) one dual cross-country flight under simulated or actual IMC conditions of a minimum of 100 nautical miles, the flight to be conducted in accordance with an IFR flight plan to include at, two different locations, an instrument approach to minima.

[NotDirty!]

421.46(b) Experience
An applicant shall have completed a minimum of:

(i) 50 hours of cross-country flight as pilot-in-command in aeroplanes or helicopters of which 10 hours must be in the appropriate category; and

(ii) 40 hours of instrument time of which a maximum of 20 hours may be instrument ground time. The 40 hours instrument time shall include a minimum of:
(A) 5 hours of dual instrument flight time acquired from the holder of a flight instructor rating ,
(B) 5 hours in aeroplanes where the applicant is applying for a Group 1, 2 or 3 instrument rating or in helicopters where the applicant is applying for a Group 4 instrument rating,
(C) Fifteen (15) hours of dual instrument flight time provided by a qualified person as specified in section 425.21(9); and
(amended 1998/03/23)
(D) one dual cross-country flight under simulated or actual IMC conditions of a minimum of 100 nautical miles, the flight to be conducted in accordance with an IFR flight plan to include at, two different locations, an instrument approach to minima.

So you could do all your training in a single, then do your ride in a multi... but that is not a recipe for success.

[chipmunk]

I don't get why people think that flying a twin is rocket science. It isn't. I went from a Group 3 to Group 1 IFR with 9 hours of multi time, including the flight tests, and this was back before Redbird sim was a thing. I had several students who did their IFR training on a single then switched to a twin for the last little bit. Yes, it's a few more flight hours total, but do the math - you still save cash.

Why would you do that much dual instrument flight time on a multi if you didn't have to? It's not like you do it with one engine shut down!

[rotorspeed]

So B doesn't mean 5 hours training in multi ifr?

[NotDirty!]

So B doesn't mean 5 hours training in multi ifr?

No, it just means at least 5 hours in aeroplanes for a fixed wing IFR, or at least 5 hours in helos for the fling wing IFR.

[praveen4143]

So B doesn't mean 5 hours training in multi ifr?

No, it just means at least 5 hours in aeroplanes for a fixed wing IFR, or at least 5 hours in helos for the fling wing IFR.

Fling wing
I'm stealing that!