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TSAM wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:09 pm but this is AC recruiting and they literally just draw names out of their ass. I'm not on the inside but based on prev exp and many friends and others.

I resent this, we choose people for ground schools depending on our current needs atm. There is a method to the madness (mostly)
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There's two kinds of people that get PFO'd from jobs. Those that accept it as a "not now" and work to improve their application through continued education, work experience, and interview performance, etc. Then there's people that don't accept it and instead mentally cope with the results by telling themselves (and others) that the company is bad. I always wonder when I hear people like this, if the company's so bad why were you applying for a job there in the first place?
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If you read between the lines of iflyroads post you see what most have already realized. They are looking for OTS people with heavy jet experience. There's 188 openings for WB FO on the latest bid and they want experienced people to fill them. If you don't have that experience or are not in a position to get it in the near future I would be applying at Jazz as that is now your best bet to get hired due to contractual obligations. People are upset because it's not fair. You used to be able to get hired OTS out of a B1900 or Metro. But for now anyways it looks like those days are over unless Jazz runs out of pilots.
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937 spots and they're hiring what, 10 per course?
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co-joe wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:52 pm 937 spots and they're hiring what, 10 per course?
40 every 3 weeks is the rough target I've heard, but even then might have to go every couple weeks or up the course size if they want to get all 900, I bet they come up a couple hundred short on that though.
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Calls out for March 23 now
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Oxi wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:26 pm Calls out for March 23 now
why the sudden switch up from 3 week interval to 2 week interval between the g/s?
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Literally answered 2 posts up.
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altiplano wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:22 pm
co-joe wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:52 pm 937 spots and they're hiring what, 10 per course?
40 every 3 weeks is the rough target I've heard, but even then might have to go every couple weeks or up the course size if they want to get all 900, I bet they come up a couple hundred short on that though.

Must have picked it up in the new year, leading up to Christmas courses were small. Even 40 every 3 weeks won't come close to the 937 number, and that's if HR can fill that many spots. It seems to me, the PFO rate is at an all time high, and pretty sure Jazz can't sustain that kind of attrition. Maybe TS pilots are going to fill the gap?
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co-joe wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:33 pm
altiplano wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:22 pm
co-joe wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:52 pm 937 spots and they're hiring what, 10 per course?
40 every 3 weeks is the rough target I've heard, but even then might have to go every couple weeks or up the course size if they want to get all 900, I bet they come up a couple hundred short on that though.

Must have picked it up in the new year, leading up to Christmas courses were small. Even 40 every 3 weeks won't come close to the 937 number, and that's if HR can fill that many spots. It seems to me, the PFO rate is at an all time high, and pretty sure Jazz can't sustain that kind of attrition. Maybe TS pilots are going to fill the gap?
Minimal sim training ongoing during the couple weeks at Christmas. Small December course size reflects that more than anything I think.
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co-joe wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:33 pm It seems to me, the PFO rate is at an all time high
If true, you could also take that as HR taking more risks on who they invite to interview. Casting a wider net should result in more PFOs.
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lownslow wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:02 pm
co-joe wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:33 pm It seems to me, the PFO rate is at an all time high
If true, you could also take that as HR taking more risks on who they invite to interview. Casting a wider net should result in more PFOs.
Yeah maybe, or maybe AC HR has no idea what they're doing. :lol: My guess is this time next year we'll be talking about how there's 1500 unfilled spots.
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I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they are running the flight department a little lean due to the Max fiasco and potential risks of a downturn economy, that everyone keeps predicting but never seems to happen, thankfully.

C'est la vie.

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48 people starting Feb 17th.


March 9th and 23rd are the next gs
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iflyroads wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:39 pm 48 people starting Feb 17th.


March 9th and 23rd are the next gs
Thats a huge size for g/s. Any idea if the Mar 9th and 23rd g/s are going to be similar in size?
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sdotz wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:25 am
iflyroads wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:39 pm 48 people starting Feb 17th.


March 9th and 23rd are the next gs
Thats a huge size for g/s. Any idea if the Mar 9th and 23rd g/s are going to be similar in size?
Won't know till closer in. Candidates still have to confirm attendance.
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Bid cancelled!
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Who really cares. We do bids like every two months and nothing was really changing in this one anyways.
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tca wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:50 am CMSC-Cx.jpg

Bid cancelled!

More info to come!!
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