The Air Canada OTS thread

[lownslow]

All YYZ I believe

I would guess that all new hires will be YYZ based for the foreseeable future. Not because people aren’t needed elsewhere but because that way any relocation is simply seniority based.

[TheStig]

There are vacancies for new hires in YUL on the A220, A330, 737 and rouge Airbus. Vacancies in YVR will be A320 and 737. There may be spots on the 777 and 787 in YVR but the airline isn't going to train anyone from the Seneca Class of '16 into those spots.

[goingnowherefast]

What date do the new duty regs come into force for Air Canada? Or what date will they implement them if sooner?

As per Gazette 2, December 12, 2020

[Inverted2]

Airlines will wait till the last minute to implement them.

[rudder]

Airlines will wait till the last minute to implement them.

Air carriers will need to be compliant on day of implementation.

Therefore, in some instances (cumulative flight time/cumulative duty time) the new limitations will have to be enforced in advance.

As for staffing, most carriers have completed analysis of impact on staffing and have been preparing accordingly. I suspect AC is no different in this regard.

[Dry Guy]

Thanks. Will the new regs stop things Air Canada does like unaugmented Atlantic crossing?

[jpilot77]

Some routes farther into Europe yes, but no blanket augmented Atlantic crossings.

[Dry Guy]

Some routes farther into Europe yes, but no blanket augmented Atlantic crossings.

That sucks. WB flying would be a much better job if it wasn't for the un-augmented oceanic crossings.

[dialdriver]

What's the oldest age of any recent new hires?

[tallyho]

There was a 57 and a couple of other 50 somethings in my class in summer. Plus a bunch of 40 somethings.

[sdotz]

Class of 8 started yesterday. No OTS if I remember correctly. A handful of ggn

Expect to see a few ggn in Dec gs as well. Not sure about the ots number.

Thanks for the info Roads, can we expect the Dec 2nd class will be the last one of 2019? If so, any idea what the new year holds in terms of class sizes or frequency?

Thanks,

T

That's a correct assumption. Expect hiring to ramp up again beginning of Jan.

Thanks For all the information, Roads.
Will the Jan/Feb ground school be 40 each? The plan is a ground school every 3 weeks?

[bigrig]

Wondering how much weight an internal reference carries? Also how much does having more than one reference benefit.
Thanks

[altiplano]

Wondering how much weight an internal reference carries? Also how much does having more than one reference benefit.
Thanks

Assuming you have everything else they want, it makes the difference of getting your name pulled out of the pile sooner than later.

They are sensitive on nepotism though, if you aren't competitive in experience, it won't help much.

[losercruiser]

Wondering how much weight an internal reference carries? Also how much does having more than one reference benefit.
Thanks

It doesn't really add much. It goes on the file for the hiring board but doesn't get you an interview.

[LicensedToThrill]

What's the experience levels of the OTS guys? I'm a non Jazz pilot.

[Outlaw58]

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[TheStig]

OTS hires have been more or less limited to pilots leaving the RCAF or ExPats with wide body experience.

[jpilot77]

And during the last year a significant number of pilots from Westjet and Encore.

[goingnowherefast]

Are they still hiring pilots off Dash 8s from "705 lite" companies; Perimeter, PAL, CMA, etc.?

[TheStig]

Here's a rough tally for AC's 2019 Hiring
226 - Jazz
39 - GGN
27 - SR
26 - RCAF
18 - Sunwing
15 - Porter
26 - Westjet
38 - Encore
8 - Swoop
11 - Cathay Pacific
9 - EVA/Emirates//Air India/ Thomas Cook
3 - CargoJet
9 - Flair
10 - Cdn North/ 1st Air/ Air North
13 - Corporate (Although some might have been 705'lite Ops?)
3 - Transport Canada/Bombardier
8 - Pasco/Bearskin/Calm Air/EVAS/Sky North
2 - Very unfortunate Air Transat pilots

The hiring at the start of the year was more OTS weighted while the courses running since the end of summer have been mostly from the connectors.