Who will bid the A220?

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Re: Who will bid the A220?

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I calculated it a while back based on the info posted in the contract and on the ACPA site. Should be around...

Year 1 $165.82 day, $189.04 night
Year 12 $186.64 day, $209.86 night
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U.S pilots would laugh at that...
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A-220 rates Effective April 1/19

Day / Night

Year 1 169.5599 / 193.2443

Year 12 191.2099 / 214.8943
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You guys get paid more to fly at night? :roll:
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Some people are afraid of the dark :wink:
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Inverted2 wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:48 am You guys get paid more to fly at night? :roll:
I could see a little increase for fatigue or whatever, but 20-30 difference?? That's wild. :shock:
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'97 Tercel wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:38 pm U.S pilots would laugh at that...
And a Swoop pilot will do it for half the amount.
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Fucking A we get paid more to fly at night.
And we get paid more premium to fly overseas.
And we get Nav pay.
And we get a blended rate when we do training or collect a guarantee, 1/2 day/night.

Why don't you? :roll:
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altiplano wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:27 pm Fucking A we get paid more to fly at night.
And we get paid more premium to fly overseas.
And we get Nav pay.
And we get a blended rate when we do training or collect a guarantee, 1/2 day/night.

Why don't you? :roll:
What is the Nav pay?
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Captain nav-aid pay 11.1412
FO nav-aid pay 5.5701
RP nav-aid pay 3.3416
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altiplano wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:33 pm Captain nav-aid pay 11.1412
FO nav-aid pay 5.5701
RP nav-aid pay 3.3416
No I mean how do you get it.
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Nav pay is paid when operating a NB aircraft on any flight operation that departs and/or arrives outside of Canada, the United States (excluding Hawaii), Mexico, the Bahamas and the Territorial Collectivity of Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon, or other mutually agreed routes.

It is also paid in monthly guarantees varying, depending on type.
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altiplano wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:46 pm Nav pay is paid when operating a NB aircraft on any flight operation that departs and/or arrives outside of Canada, the United States (excluding Hawaii), Mexico, the Bahamas and the Territorial Collectivity of Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon, or other mutually agreed routes.

It is also paid in monthly guarantees varying, depending on type.
Interesting. They like to make things complicated.
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Is that really complicated?
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altiplano wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:49 pm Is that really complicated?
Way more complicated than it needs to be. Why not pay a flat hourly rate like everyone else?
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Who's everyone else?
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Re: Who will bid the A220?

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Every other airline in Canada as far as I know.
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And they're everyone else?

Delta, United, American, Alaskan, Hawaiian, Jetblue... even Spirit have various international pay premiums.

Maybe your "everyone else" are missing out?
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altiplano wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:33 pm And they're everyone else?

Delta, United, American, Alaskan, Hawaiian, Jetblue... even Spirit have various international pay premiums.

Maybe your "everyone else" are missing out?
I’m certainly not against anyone making extra cash but to me it seems like a weird way to make it. Is following the magenta line to Cancun really any different than following it to Punta Cana?
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It's likely a throw back from when pilots actually navigated. But it still makes sense today since oceanic flights have extra duties and navigation checks. More work more pay makes sense to me.
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