Layoffs

[Eric Janson]

Some first hand information.

Frankfurt is the busiest European Airport I've seen so far. Limited number of flights are operating and it's the closest thing to a Hub right now.

All shops/restaurants closed except for a couple of shops selling drinks/snacks/sweets.

My Air Canada flight had about 40 passengers on it (787).

Not sure how long flights will continue like this.

[Inverted2]

I heard on the radio something about Air Canada laying off 6000 workers in June. Didn’t mention what kinds of employees though.

[Civic]

I heard on the radio something about Air Canada laying off 6000 workers in June. Didn’t mention what kinds of employees though.

Ramp

[rudder]

Different airline. Different country. But a large global network airline.

UAL just issued a displacement bid showing 4525 surplus pilots (out of 13000).

[rudder]

DAL just published their reduction bid results.

2327 pilots with no position assignment (surplus/potential layoff). Most senior surplus pilot DEC 2016 DOH.

Junior NB CA DOH 2001/2007 (depending on whether former NW or DL).

[bobcaygeon]

How many layoff notices went out late last week?

[FL-280]

162

[JoeyBarton]

162 out of 4499#. These layoffs were supposed to happen before the 1st cews announcement. It was then delayed until June 30 th due to that. 30 days prior notice so the 162 most juniors got the call yesterday.
Up to max 600 layoffs until Sep 30th.

[bobcaygeon]

162 out of 4499#. These layoffs were supposed to happen before the 1st cews announcement. It was then delayed until June 30 th due to that. 30 days prior notice so the 162 most juniors got the call yesterday.
Up to max 600 layoffs until Sep 30th.

That's it based on the business drop? Not that I want more.....

[FL-280]

Up to 600 more to come anytime now... these 600 pilots are on a surplus list, meaning they dont have an assigned seat

[Daniel Cooper]

600 more or 600 total?

[FL-280]

600 more.....

[JoeyBarton]

No. 600 max layoffs until Sept 30th. The 162 is already part of the 600. So max 438 more layoffs on top of the initial 162 until Sept 30th.

[sanjet]

That's it based on the business drop? Not that I want more.....

This is based on a partial recovery next year. Lots of down training beginning soon and this takes up to 12-18 months to complete.

[red 5]

How many after September ? I heard another 25 per cent of the 3700 , Any truth in this ? This is just what I heard so not verifiable. .

[BTD]

In theory, what has been published plans out to summer 2022. If that holds, there shouldn’t be anymore. But we are in strange times.

['97 Tercel]

[TheStig]

In theory, what has been published plans out to summer 2022. If that holds, there shouldn’t be anymore. But we are in strange times.

The bid showed 795 surplus pilots so there could be more furloughs after September.

[BTD]

In theory, what has been published plans out to summer 2022. If that holds, there shouldn’t be anymore. But we are in strange times.

The bid showed 795 surplus pilots so there could be more furloughs after September.

Yes. I should clarify. There shouldn’t be anymore surplus than what is on the bid. But again, who knows.

[rudder]

What happens to scheduling/staffing for October after the MOA expires?

Sure doesn’t look like capacity recovery is happening for Q3/Q4, particularly US trans border and overseas.