Layoffs

[Flight_Deck]

The fact of the matter is we are all speculating and have opinions. But that’s all they are, opinions. Everybody has one and the range can obviously be significant from one person to the next. Nobody knows how long this will last and what the industry will look like in the next few months as none of us have a crystal ball. If you do however, perhaps you could fill me in on which stocks will take the biggest jump this coming week?

Maybe we will see things improving drastically sooner than later. Who knows?!

[sanjet]

Maybe we will see things improving drastically sooner than later. Who knows?!

We can always hope but we should also be prepared for different times ahead.

[altiplano]

Profit share came in. Check your April stub. That's good news.

I see some overseas flights are being added and frequencies increasing for May on the most recent route update. That's good news.

[Squid]

Profit share came in. Check your April stub. That's good news.

I see some overseas flights are being added and frequencies increasing for May on the most recent route update. That's good news.

Oh, ok. Thanks for the advise sport.

[altiplano]

Profit share came in. Check your April stub. That's good news.

I see some overseas flights are being added and frequencies increasing for May on the most recent route update. That's good news.

Oh, ok. Thanks for the advise sport.

Why be a dick about it? I'm just trying to point out a couple good things.

Fu©k I'm sick of it...

Jeezus...

[Old fella]

[/quote]

Why be a dick about it? I'm just trying to point out a couple good things.

Fu©k I'm sick of it...

Jeezus...
[/quote]

This is Avcanada- positive thinking and commentary isn’t one of the stellar attributes usually noted here.

[mbav8r]

Hey guys,
Did the position bid come out?
How bad was it?

[FL320]

Hey guys,
Did the position bid come out?
How bad was it?

Postponed again

[mbav8r]

Hey guys,
Did the position bid come out?
How bad was it?

Postponed again

That’s good I suppose, depending on how you view it. If it’s bad news, better off delaying the bad news but of course the uncertainty can weigh heavily on people.

[Squid]

Delaying the bid again is not a good sign. Not that the sky is falling but the revisions are not good.

[Flight_Deck]

Does anyone know or heard if AC would accept a stimulus package. I have heard that they are coming very soon for the airlines but I know there were strings attached for the US airlines for example. I am assuming this could change the outlook of the bid and mitigate layoffs. Any thoughts?

[FL-280]

Does anyone know or heard if AC would accept a stimulus package. I have heard that they are coming very soon for the airlines but I know there were strings attached for the US airlines for example. I am assuming this could change the outlook of the bid and mitigate layoffs. Any thoughts?

IMHO the feds owe Air Canada. Either it be in money, regulation, or other favor they owe them. AC kept essential domestic service at a clear financial loss with horrible loads. No way they were making money when 30 people are on board a 320
CR knows that and will play his cards accordingly in this very dynamic situation

[dialdriver]

IMHO the feds owe Air Canada.

There it is!

[telex]

Does anyone know or heard if AC would accept a stimulus package. I have heard that they are coming very soon for the airlines but I know there were strings attached for the US airlines for example. I am assuming this could change the outlook of the bid and mitigate layoffs. Any thoughts?

IMHO the feds owe Air Canada. Either it be in money, regulation, or other favor they owe them. AC kept essential domestic service at a clear financial loss with horrible loads. No way they were making money when 30 people are on board a 320
CR knows that and will play his cards accordingly in this very dynamic situation

Usually requires a donation to the trudope foundation...

[lownslow]

30 people are on board a 320

Thirty??!! That was a month ago. Try seven for the flight I was on. Unless she’s all drugs below deck I would think AC is running at a tremendous loss.

[Flight_Deck]

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/morneau-eye ... -1.1423192

[mbav8r]

Some light in a dark world, of course subject to change but at least it’s something
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-16apr20/
Air Canada in the last few days gradually filed additional changes to its Norther summer 2020 International operation (except service to the US), between May and October 2020. As of 0930GMT 16APR20, the airline has updated schedules up to 23JUN20. Schedules on/after 24JUN20 remains tentative for the moment, however certain routes already sees cancellation to the end of summer season, or frequency reduction compared to pre-COVID19 scenario for summer season.

Further changes remain likely.

Calgary – Cancun Service resumes on 06JUN20, 1 weekly A319 (A320 from 20JUN20)
Calgary – Frankfurt Service resumes on 01JUN20, 4 weekly 787-9 (7 weekly from 24JUN20)
Calgary – London Heathrow Service resumes on 24JUN20 (5 weekly 400-seater 777-300ER, 1 daily from 01JUL20)
Calgary – Tokyo Narita Summer seasonal service cancelled, previously scheduled 1 daily from 30JUN20
Montreal – Algiers Summer seasonal service cancelled
Montreal – Athens Seasonal service begins on 24JUN20, 1 daily rouge 767
Montreal – Barcelona Seasonal service begins on 24JUN20, 5 weekly rouge 767
Montreal – Bordeaux Summer seasonal service cancelled
Montreal – Brussels Service resumes on 15MAY20, 3 weekly 787-9 (4 weekly A330-300 from 02JUN20, 5 weekly 787-9 from 24JUN20)
Montreal – Bucharest Summer seasonal service cancelled
Montreal – Cancun Service resumes on 01JUN20, 6 weekly rouge A321 (1 daily from 01JUL20)
Montreal – Casablanca Service resumes on 24JUN20, 4 weekly A330-300 (1 daily from 30JUN20)
Montreal – Cayo Coco Service resumes on 01JUN20, 2 weekly rouge A321
Montreal – Cozumel Service resumes on 05JUN20, 1 weekly rouge A321 (until 04SEP20)
Montreal – Dublin Seasonal service begins on 25JUN20, 4 weekly 787-8
Montreal – Fort-de-France Service resumes on 17MAY20, 1 weekly Mainline A320 (2 weekly rouge A321 from 05JUN20, 3 weekly in July/August)
Montreal – Frankfurt 4 weekly 787-9, 1 daily A330-300 from 01JUN20 (3 weekly 787-8 and 4 weekly 787-9 from 24JUN20)
Montreal – Geneva Service resumes on 02JUN20, 4 weekly 787-8 (1 daily A330-300 from 24JUN20)
Montreal – Lisbon Seasonal service begins on 24JUN20, 3 weekly rouge 767 (5 weekly from 29JUN20)
Montreal – London Heathrow 3 weekly A330-300, 1 daily from 01JUN20 (400-seater 777-300ER from 24JUN20)
Montreal – Lyon Service resumes on 25JUN20, 4 weekly A330-300 (6 weekly from 30JUN20)
Montreal – Marseille Summer seasonal service cancelled
Montreal – Montego Bay Service resumes on 03JUN20, 1 weekly rouge A321
Montreal – Nassau Service resumes on 06JUN20, 1 weekly A220-300
Montreal – Nice Seasonal service resumes on 24JUN20, 4 weekly A330-300 (5 weekly from 05JUL20)
Montreal – Paris CDG 1 daily A330-300 (400-seater 777-300ER from 01JUN20)
Montreal – Pointe-a-Pitre Service resumes on 16MAY20, 1 daily A320 (2 weekly rouge A321 from 04JUN20, 3 weekly 06JUL20 – 05SEP20)
Montreal – Providenciales Service resumes on 07JUN20, 1 weekly rouge A321 (Mainline A320 05JUL20 – 06SEP20)
Montreal – Puerto Plata Service resumes on 04JUN20, 1 weekly rouge A321 (rouge A319 from 10SEP20)
Montreal – Punta Cana Service resumes on 01JUN20, 4 weekly rouge A319 (767 on 01JUN20, 1 daily 19JUN20 – 03SEP20)
Montreal – Reykjavik Keflavik Summer seasonal service cancelled
Montreal – Rome Service resumes on 25JUN20, 1 daily 450-seater 777-300ER
Montreal – Samana Service resumes on 01JUN20, rouge A321
Montreal – San Salvador (Bahamas) Service resumes on 02JUN20, 1 weekly rouge A319
Montreal – Santa Clara Service resumes on 03JUN20, 2 weekly rouge A321
Montreal – Shanghai Pu Dong Service resumes on 24JUN20, 3 weekly 787-9 and 4 weekly 787-8
Montreal – Tel Aviv Seasonal service begins on 24JUN20, 2 weekly 787-9 (3 weekly from 06JUL20)
Montreal – Tokyo Narita Service resumes on 24JUN20, 3 weekly 787-8 and 4 weekly 787-9

Montreal – Toulouse Planned new 5 weekly service from 04JUN20 cancelled
Montreal – Varadero Service resumes on 02JUN20, 3 weekly rouge A321
Montreal – Venice Summer seasonal service cancelled
Ottawa – London Heathrow Service resumes on 24JUN20, 1 daily A330-300
Toronto – Amsterdam Service resumes on 02JUN20, 3 weekly 787-8 (1 daily 777-200LR from 24JUN20)
Toronto – Antigua Service resumes on 06JUN20, 1 weekly A320
Toronto – Aruba Service resumes on 06JUN20, 2 weekly A320
Toronto – Athens Seasonal service begins on 01JUL20, 1 daily rouge 767
Toronto – Barcelona Seasonal service begins on 24JUN20, 1 daily rouge 767
Toronto – Beijing Capital Service resumes on 24JUN20, 1 daily 787-9
Toronto – Berlin Tegel Summer seasonal service cancelled
Toronto – Bermuda Service resumes on 01JUN20, 5 weekly rouge A319 (6 weekly 01JUL20 – 07SEP20)
Toronto – Bogota Service resumes on 03JUN20, 5 weekly rouge 767
Toronto – Brussels New route begins on 25JUN20, 5 weekly 787-9
Toronto – Bucharest Summer seasonal service cancelled
Toronto – Budapest Summer seasonal service cancelled
Toronto – Cancun Service resumes on 01JUN20, 1 daily rouge 767/A319 (rouge A321 from 01JUL20)
Toronto – Copenhagen Service resumes on 01JUL20, 1 daily 450-seater 777-300ER
Toronto – Curacao Service resumes on 07JUN20, 1 weekly A320
Toronto – Delhi Service resumes on 03JUN20, 3 weekly 787-9 (1 daily from 24JUN20)
Toronto – Dubai Service resumes on 25JUN20, 3 weekly 787-9
Toronto – Dublin Service resumes on 24JUN20, 1 daily 787-9
Toronto – Edinburgh Summer seasonal service cancelled
Toronto – Frankfurt 1 daily 400-seater 777-300ER (2nd daily resumes with 787-9 from 24JUN20)
Toronto – Glasgow Summer seasonal service cancelled
Toronto – Grand Cayman Service resumes on 06JUN20, 1 weekly A321 (rouge A319 04JUL20 – 05SEP20)
Toronto – Grenada Service resumes on 01JUN20, 1 weekly rouge A319 (2 weekly from 03JUL20)
Toronto – Havana Service resumes on 01JUN20, 1 daily rouge A319 (Mainline Embraer E190 01JUL20 – 07SEP20)
Toronto – Holguin Service resumes on 03JUN20, 1 weekly rouge A319
Toronto – Hong Kong Service resumes on 24JUN20, 1 daily 777-200LR
Toronto – Kingston Service resumes on 01JUN20, 5 weekly rouge A319 (rouge 767 22JUN20 – 07SEP20, rouge A320 from 08SEP20, A321 from 01OCT20)
Toronto – Liberia Service resumes on 02JUN20, 1 weekly rouge A319 (2 weekly 25JUN20 – 03SEP20)
Toronto – Lima Service cancelled in Northern summer season until 25OCT20
Toronto – Lisbon Seasonal service begins on 24JUN20, 5 weekly rouge 767
Toronto – London Heathrow 1 daily 400-seater 777-300ER (2 daily 777-300ER from 01JUN20, 4 daily 777/787-8/A330-300 from 24JUN20)
Toronto – Madrid Service cancelled in summer season until 23OCT20
Toronto – Manchester Summer seasonal service cancelled
Toronto – Milan Malpensa Summer seasonal service cancelled
Toronto – Montego Bay Service resumes on 01JUN20, 1 daily rouge A321
Toronto – Munich Service resumes on 01JUN20, 5 weekly 787-9 (1 daily A330-300 from 24JUN20)
Toronto – Nassau Service resumes on 01JUN20, 6 weekly rouge A321 (1 daily from 24JUN20)
Toronto – Panama City Service resumes on 03JUN20, 3 weekly rouge A319
Toronto – Paris CDG Service resumes on 01JUN20, 4 weekly 787-9 (1 daily 450-seater 777-300ER from 24JUN20)
Toronto – Port of Spain Service resumes on 02JUN20, 2 weekly rouge 767
Toronto – Porto Summer seasonal service cancelled
Toronto – Prague Summer seasonal service cancelled
Toronto – Providenciales Service resumes on 06JUN20, 1 weekly A320 (2 weekly A319/320 from 21JUN20)
Toronto – Punta Cana Service resumes on 01JUN20, 6 weekly rouge 767 (1 daily from 24JUN20 to 07SEP20, rouge A321 from 01JUL20 to 07SEP20)
Toronto – Reykjavik Keflavik Summer seasonal service cancelled
Toronto – Rome Service resumes on 24JUN20, 1 daily 450-seater 777-300ER
Toronto – St. Lucia Service resumes on 02JUN20, 3 weekly rouge A319 (2 weekly 05JUL20)
Toronto – St. Vincent Service resumes on 04JUN20, 1 weekly rouge A319
Toronto – San Jose (Costa Rica) Service resumes on 03JUN20, 2 weekly rouge 767
Toronto – Santa Clara Service resumes on 03JUN20, 1 weekly rouge A319
Toronto – Santiago de Chile – Buenos Aires Ezeiza Service resumes on 24JUN20, 4 weekly 787-9
Toronto – Sao Paulo Guarulhos Service resumes on 01JUN20, 3 weekly 787-9 (1 daily 400-seater 777-300ER)
Toronto – Seoul Incheon Service resumes on 24JUN20, 1 daily 787-9
Toronto – Shanghai Pu Dong Service resumes on 24JUN20, 1 daily 787-8
Toronto – Tel Aviv Service resumes on 01JUN20, 3 weekly 787-9 (1 daily from 23JUN20)
Toronto – Tokyo Haneda Service resumes on 02JUN20, 5 weekly 787-9 (400-seater 777-300ER from 24JUN20)
Toronto – Varadero Service resumes on 01JUN20, 2 weekly rouge A319
Toronto – Venice Summer seasonal service cancelled
Toronto – Vienna Service resumes on 03JUN20, 3 weekly 787-9 (1 daily from 24JUN20)
Toronto – Warsaw Summer seasonal service cancelled
Toronto – Zagreb Summer seasonal service cancelled
Toronto – Zurich Service resumes on 05MAY20, 3 weekly 787-9 (4 weekly from 03JUN20, 1 daily from 24JUN20)
Vancouver – Beijing Capital Service resumes on 01JUN20, 4 weekly 787-9 (1 daily from 24JUN20)
Vancouver – Brisbane Service cancelled in Northern summer season until 22OCT20
Vancouver – Delhi Service resumes on 24JUN20, 1 daily 787-9
Vancouver – Dublin Seasonal service begins on 24JUN20, 4 weekly A330-300
Vancouver – Frankfurt Seasonal service begins on 24JUN20, 1 daily 400-seater 777-300ER
Vancouver – London Heathrow 3 weekly 787-8, 1 daily 787-9 from 01JUN20 (400-seater 777-300ER from 24JUN20)
Vancouver – Mexico City Service resumes on 01JUN20, 1 daily A319
Vancouver – Osaka Kansai Seasonal service begins on 24JUN20, 5 weekly 787-8 (6 weekly 787-8/-9 from 08SEP20)
Vancouver – Paris CDG Summer seasonal service cancelled
Vancouver – Puerto Vallarta Service resumes on 06JUN20, 1 weekly A320 (A321 04JUL20 – 05SEP20)
Vancouver – Seoul Incheon Service resumes on 01MAY20, 2 weekly 787-9 (5 weekly from 02JUN20, 1 daily from 24JUN20, 787-8 24JUN20 – 07SEP20)
Vancouver – Shanghai Pu Dong Service resumes on 01JUN20, 3 weekly 787-9 (1 daily from 24JUN20)
Vancouver – Sydney Service resumes on 24JUN20, 1 daily 777-200LR
Vancouver – Taipei Taoyuan Service cancelled in Northern summer season until 23OCT20
Vancouver – Tokyo Narita Service resumes on 15MAY20, 3 weekly 787-9 (1 daily from 02JUN20)
Vancouver – Zurich Seasonal service begins on 24JUN20, 5 weekly 787-9

[mbav8r]

By comparison, this is what was posted about a week ago for May
Air Canada in the last few days filed additional adjustment to its planned International operation (excluding US in this post), for the month of May 2020. Latest adjustment as of 0500GMT 08APR20 as follows. Additional changes remain possible.

Montreal – Brussels 4 weekly A330-300 (service resumption)
Montreal – Fort-de-France 1 weekly A319 (service resumption)
Montreal – Frankfurt 1 daily 787-9
Montreal – London Heathrow 5 weekly A330-300
Montreal – Paris CDG 1 daily 777-300ER (400-seater)
Montreal – Pointe-a-Pitre 1 weekly A319 (service resumption)
Toronto – Bogota 3 weekly 787-8 (service resumption; Mainline replacing rouge)
Toronto – Bridgetown 1 weekly A319 (resumes on 16MAY20)
Toronto – Cancun 2 weekly A320 (service resumption; Mainline replacing rouge)
Toronto – Frankfurt 1 daily 777-300ER (400-seater)
Toronto – London Heathrow 2 daily 777-300ER (400-seater)/787-9
Toronto – Mexico City 1 daily A319
Toronto – Montego Bay 2 weekly A319 (service resumption; Mainline replacing rouge)
Toronto – Punta Cana 2 weekly A320 (service resumption; Mainline replacing rouge)
Toronto – Tokyo Haneda 4 weekly 787-9 (service resumption)
Toronto – Zurich 4 weekly 787-9 (service resumption)
Vancouver – Hong Kong 5 weekly 787-9
Vancouver – London Heathrow 5 weekly 787-8
Vancouver – Seoul Incheon 4 weekly 787-9 (service resumption)
Vancouver – Tokyo Narita 5 weekly 787-9

[fishface]

Thanks mba
We do need some positives.
Hopefully it means they have info and it’s not just a shot in the dark, I doubt it would be.

[JoeyBarton]

No news?