Rouge widebody guys have a job waiting for them
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Re: Rouge widebody guys have a job waiting for them
You would need to see the CJ pay rates.
55 or 60 hours x mainline 767 rates may equal or exceed CJ monthly salary.
Last info that I saw was around $128k for year 1 CA and around $70k for year 1 FO but I also understand that there was an increase negotiated in 2019.
55 or 60 hours x mainline 767 rates may equal or exceed CJ monthly salary.
Last info that I saw was around $128k for year 1 CA and around $70k for year 1 FO but I also understand that there was an increase negotiated in 2019.
Re: Rouge widebody guys have a job waiting for them
Rouge captains are making a lot of money to stay home and do nothing. CJ would be a good payraise for FOs though.
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Re: Rouge widebody guys have a job waiting for them
Ouch, there's turboprop drivers making that on DH8/ATRs! I'd expect a lot more on a widebody.rudder wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:26 am You would need to see the CJ pay rates.
55 or 60 hours x mainline 767 rates may equal or exceed CJ monthly salary.
Last info that I saw was around $128k for year 1 CA and around $70k for year 1 FO but I also understand that there was an increase negotiated in 2019.
Re: Rouge widebody guys have a job waiting for them
How much do you expect to see as a minimum for widebody?goingnowherefast wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:58 pmOuch, there's turboprop drivers making that on DH8/ATRs! I'd expect a lot more on a widebody.rudder wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:26 am You would need to see the CJ pay rates.
55 or 60 hours x mainline 767 rates may equal or exceed CJ monthly salary.
Last info that I saw was around $128k for year 1 CA and around $70k for year 1 FO but I also understand that there was an increase negotiated in 2019.
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Re: Rouge widebody guys have a job waiting for them
There are turboprop companies in Canada that pay 130k CA/ 70k FO for first year drivers?goingnowherefast wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:58 pm Ouch, there's turboprop drivers making that on DH8/ATRs! I'd expect a lot more on a widebody.
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Re: Rouge widebody guys have a job waiting for them
Here we go again.
AC 767 left seaters on reduced salary (55 hrs) make about $25-43k more. An unpaid LOA means no pension contributions, no YOS advancement, no benefits, and leave your RAIC at the door.
Why on earth would they take that kind of pay cut unless they were on the street with no other options?
Good luck? Give it a few more months maybe.
AC 767 left seaters on reduced salary (55 hrs) make about $25-43k more. An unpaid LOA means no pension contributions, no YOS advancement, no benefits, and leave your RAIC at the door.
Why on earth would they take that kind of pay cut unless they were on the street with no other options?
Good luck? Give it a few more months maybe.
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Re: Rouge widebody guys have a job waiting for them
I didn't say First Year turboprop drivers. However you shouldn't ever be able to compare DH8/ATR pay to widebody rates.
Hmm, minimum for a widebody. Captains should probably be north of 200k, probably a quarter million. FOs over 100k, maybe 150. If you want to know the answer, just look at what they pay at FedEx, UPS, Delta, American and United.
Hmm, minimum for a widebody. Captains should probably be north of 200k, probably a quarter million. FOs over 100k, maybe 150. If you want to know the answer, just look at what they pay at FedEx, UPS, Delta, American and United.
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Re: Rouge widebody guys have a job waiting for them
We're Canadian. We have convinced ourselves we are worth less. Worthless.
We have developed a strange sense of self-loathing over the years. It's nearly sacrilege to compare ourselves to our neighbours to the south. We look the same, act the same, watch the same TV, drive the same cars, but we value ourselves differently in this field.
It's downright weird. It wasn't always this way.
We have developed a strange sense of self-loathing over the years. It's nearly sacrilege to compare ourselves to our neighbours to the south. We look the same, act the same, watch the same TV, drive the same cars, but we value ourselves differently in this field.
It's downright weird. It wasn't always this way.
Re: Rouge widebody guys have a job waiting for them
It isn't self loathing; it is looking at the real world we live in. But to play devil's advocate, we are a small country by population, and our market for everything is not what it is in the States or Europe.
I lived in the States for a while. You can have it.
I lived in the States for a while. You can have it.
Re: Rouge widebody guys have a job waiting for them
It's great to think 300 hour FO's in Nigeria or the Philippines make more than our 767 fo'sRippleRock wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:14 pm We're Canadian. We have convinced ourselves we are worth less. Worthless.
We have developed a strange sense of self-loathing over the years. It's nearly sacrilege to compare ourselves to our neighbours to the south. We look the same, act the same, watch the same TV, drive the same cars, but we value ourselves differently in this field.
It's downright weird. It wasn't always this way.