Fresh out of flight school? Sounds like he's still in it.shimmydampner wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:34 pm Don't discourage his fresh-out-of-flight school insights. They're so valuable. As he pointed out, he's so very wise.
Is the 4 year flat pay worth it?
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If you can't explain why I'm wrong, you just end up sounding like more of an ass than I doshimmydampner wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:34 pm Don't discourage his fresh-out-of-flight school insights. They're so valuable. As he pointed out, he's so very wise.
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dialdriver
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My explanation is 250 hrs long...vermont wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:17 pmIf you can't explain why I'm wrong, you just end up sounding like more of an ass than I doshimmydampner wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:34 pm Don't discourage his fresh-out-of-flight school insights. They're so valuable. As he pointed out, he's so very wise.
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That guy...
He was asking how to plan a cross country flight only a couple months back.
No credibility as far as working in this business, or managing a career in it, let alone at an airline level, is concerned.
Here you go Vermont:
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Come on back when you grow some hair on your pussy.
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It seems really easy to get on your nervesaltiplano wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:21 pmThat guy...
He was asking how to plan a cross country flight only a couple months back.
No credibility as far as working in this business, or managing a career in it, let alone at an airline level, is concerned.
Here you go Vermont:
viewforum.php?f=3
Come on back when you grow some hair on your pussy.
It's like I have my own little fan club 
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Mr 250 I wasn't talking to you, it's nice having my own stalker though!dialdriver wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:20 pmMy explanation is 250 hrs long...vermont wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:17 pmIf you can't explain why I'm wrong, you just end up sounding like more of an ass than I doshimmydampner wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:34 pm Don't discourage his fresh-out-of-flight school insights. They're so valuable. As he pointed out, he's so very wise.
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It must be tough to realize that you aren't going to be successful. Better go have a good cry about it and then cut your losses...vermont wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:38 pmIt seems really easy to get on your nervesaltiplano wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:21 pmThat guy...
He was asking how to plan a cross country flight only a couple months back.
No credibility as far as working in this business, or managing a career in it, let alone at an airline level, is concerned.
Here you go Vermont:
viewforum.php?f=3
Come on back when you grow some hair on your pussy.
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dialdriver
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ouch...vermont wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:38 pmMr 250 I wasn't talking to you, it's nice having my own stalker though!
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Regardless, Air Canada flat pay and benefits are better than instructing
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100 percent agreed! I wonder is instructing equally bad everywhere?
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Successful enough to have my own group of stalkersaltiplano wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:13 pmIt must be tough to realize that you aren't going to be successful. Better go have a good cry about it and then cut your losses...vermont wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:38 pmIt seems really easy to get on your nervesaltiplano wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:21 pm
That guy...
He was asking how to plan a cross country flight only a couple months back.
No credibility as far as working in this business, or managing a career in it, let alone at an airline level, is concerned.
Here you go Vermont:
viewforum.php?f=3
Come on back when you grow some hair on your pussy.
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Well at least the first 4 posts were helpful
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This right here is what is wrong with the aviation pay system. Work like a dog...had it rough...but hell i got the WATCH!
How about you just say, NO.
Please, when companies come grovelling looking for pilots...don't fly jumpers for free.
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Re: Is the 4 year flat pay worth it?
To be honest, you'll need a bit of time prior to even applying to Jazz (they're hiring around 800-1500TT + Multi), and then if you're successful at Jazz there are 600+ pilots at Jazz waiting to go to AC who are by seniority going to go first. So best case scenario (including Covid-19) you're 4-6 years away from going to AC even if you're successful at the AC interview. So my suggestion is make AC the goal which is great, but don't worry about AC too much yet. You've got to do some time building, then give it a crack at Jazz and see what happens. Hope for the best but plan for the worst.
Good luck, just focus on getting a good job right now that will gain you some valuable experience to make your resume attractive to Jazz.
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Ya im instructing and teaching single IFR currently at 18. I want to go to Jazz with a signed off ATPL. Probably go fly a King Air sometime in the next 15 months to get some high performance multi. I gotta wait till 21 for the ATPL so to some extent I just gotta wait lol.KenoraPilot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:24 amTo be honest, you'll need a bit of time prior to even applying to Jazz (they're hiring around 800-1500TT + Multi), and then if you're successful at Jazz there are 600+ pilots at Jazz waiting to go to AC who are by seniority going to go first. So best case scenario (including Covid-19) you're 4-6 years away from going to AC even if you're successful at the AC interview. So my suggestion is make AC the goal which is great, but don't worry about AC too much yet. You've got to do some time building, then give it a crack at Jazz and see what happens. Hope for the best but plan for the worst.
Good luck, just focus on getting a good job right now that will gain you some valuable experience to make your resume attractive to Jazz.
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Well hopefully for all of us you won't be fighting 10,000 hour pilots for that King Air job...what's your education back-up?Probably go fly a King Air sometime in the next 15 months to get some high performance multi.
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Business and a few side things that could become profitable. I have a few connections I could use in the industry when the time comes for me. However there not my ideal pilot job. I love aviation so a pandemic that will go away within 12-18 months when they get a vaccine isnt going to stop me. Especially at my age. Probably even sooner things will resemble normal ish cause nobody can afford this.
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Newbie here...what’s 4 year flat pay? I’m just about to finish my pstar, getting my ppl and then going away to an academy for a degree in business and my cpl and all other necessary endorsements. Happy flying!
