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Re: The Return to Normal?

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ALPApolicy wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 12:33 pm Why is it that it has been so easy to send our young to an early grave in times of war, including through mandatory conscription against their will, with those unwilling being branded as cowards, yet when we seek to allow our young to have a healthy economic future by subjecting our elders to a modest increase in risk, there is foul play alleged?

The aforementioned UK top statistician says that Coronavirus risk of dying very nearly replicates the age adjusted risk of dying of any cause.

Says Prof David Spiegelhalter: “So, roughly speaking, we might say that getting COVID-19 is like packing a year’s worth of risk into a week or two. Which is why it’s important to spread out the infections to avoid the NHS being overwhelmed.”

https://medium.com/wintoncentre/how-muc ... 39118e1196
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Listen, we members of the ASSOCIATION OF LITTLE PEOPLE OF ALBERTA (ALPA) are able to manage our own affairs without your oversight. And I use the word “oversight” un-ironically.

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ALPApolicy wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 6:21 am Listen, we members of the ASSOCIATION OF LITTLE PEOPLE OF ALBERTA (ALPA) are able to manage our own affairs without your oversight. And I use the word “oversight” un-ironically.

http://www.albertalittlepeople.com/

Here ye. We at ACPA (Alberta Cowboy Poetry Association) stand by you.

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genetic jack hammer wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 6:29 am
ALPApolicy wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 6:21 am Listen, we members of the ASSOCIATION OF LITTLE PEOPLE OF ALBERTA (ALPA) are able to manage our own affairs without your oversight. And I use the word “oversight” un-ironically.

http://www.albertalittlepeople.com/

Here ye. We at ACPA stand by you.

https://www.albertacowboypoetry.com


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ALPApolicy wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 6:46 am
genetic jack hammer wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 6:29 am
ALPApolicy wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 6:21 am Listen, we members of the ASSOCIATION OF LITTLE PEOPLE OF ALBERTA (ALPA) are able to manage our own affairs without your oversight. And I use the word “oversight” un-ironically.

http://www.albertalittlepeople.com/

Here ye. We at ACPA stand by you.

https://www.albertacowboypoetry.com


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ikarus wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 3:31 am
EPR wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 2:25 am Sorry, I was so livid with assholes that don’t wash their hands that I double posted. FFS!
I love when you see guys at the airport walk out of the washroom stalls straight for the exit ....after doing the number 2...even more exiting is when you see one of the airline guys in uniform :lol: Hope they use those wipes when they jump on board. :roll:
I’ve seen guys wash their feet in the sink at the YYZ airport. :?
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Dearest Rockie,
I do hope you put your helmet on today. You know, reduce the risk.

You continually harp about the ‘experts’ and the ‘consensus’ on an approach to Covid. Whose experts? Putin’s experts? China’s experts? Maybe Italy’s experts or how about Sweden? The WHO? The same WHO that is clearly politically motivated or the WHO in all their righteousness has claimed Sweden’s response was the correct one?
These ‘experts’ are all fallible. Prone to bias and influence. Whose experts do you listen to? Never mind, you’re very predictable. Like the NPC (non playable character). There are Conservative experts and Liberal experts. Socialist experts and capitalist experts. All clamouring ‘truth’ about how to respond to this pandemic.

You should consider the reliability of experts, even en masse. I had an aunt whom the experts (several) said she was fine it’s just an ulcer or reflux. She’s expertly dead from colon cancer.

Then there are the numbers which you would presume to be infallible. Yet, obviously, even the numbers are susceptible to bias. Deaths to attributes to Covid when the virus was secondary to cause of death. What numbers of infected truly exist without a positive test.

At the very beginning when the information bank was low and the situation was terrifying in Italy, I started to feel a little under the weather. I stayed at home for 3 weeks for fear of putting someone I know at risk. Didn’t leave my property. I did that because no one knew very much about this thing. That has changed. The world is no longer at the mercy of opinion now that we have experience.
Now, with all the information we’ve learned, with ICU’s in my area operating at 5% capacity, seeing the severe cases congregated amongst the older crowns. Keeping hygiene and personal space a priority - I agree with those that it’s time to emerge from this.
Plenty of people say protect the elderly and you rebuke them with ‘it’s not possible’. Well, how is it possible to protect the ENTIRE population as you suggest is prevailing course of action? Overwhelming number of NYC cases were reported to occur in the shelter at home population.
As it has always been: balancing risk, not eliminating it.
Yes, I realize this post was a waste of time. A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.
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Dearest JeppsOnFire.

Health and medical authorities. I thought I made that abundantly clear but I guess not, sorry for your confusion. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that if you actually took the time to listen to what they are saying you would be surprised. Try it..it won't hurt and you won't spontaneously turn into a liberal.
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Rockie wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 3:37 pm
mixturerich wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:41 pm So we’ve established only people over 60 are vulnerable enough to care about. So let’s just isolate them until there’s a vaccine and the rest of us can go about our business. That’s only a year or two of not being to visit our parents or grandparents. No big deal, right?
Gawd...focus will you? There is no way to isolate people over 60. They've been trying and it is not working.

What do you think mixturerich, people haven't thought about protecting elderly people before you?
You missed my sarcasm. My point is that is that it’s not really feasible to just isolate one group of people and expect everyone else to not ever go visit them.
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mixturerich wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 10:26 am
Rockie wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 3:37 pm
mixturerich wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:41 pm So we’ve established only people over 60 are vulnerable enough to care about. So let’s just isolate them until there’s a vaccine and the rest of us can go about our business. That’s only a year or two of not being to visit our parents or grandparents. No big deal, right?
Gawd...focus will you? There is no way to isolate people over 60. They've been trying and it is not working.

What do you think mixturerich, people haven't thought about protecting elderly people before you?
You missed my sarcasm. My point is that is that it’s not really feasible to just isolate one group of people and expect everyone else to not ever go visit them.
Sorry, my mistake. You're right of course and not just as it applies to family but long term care and retirement facilities have staff, get deliveries etc as well. There's no true isolation unless we set them adrift on an iceflow in the arctic.
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I see this thread is being hijacked now just like the Coronavirus Numbers thread.

Before you get this one shut down as well, can you take this argument somewhere else.... like the General Comments board perhaps.

Thaaaaaaank yoouuuuuuu

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Transition9er2 wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 11:31 am I see this thread is being hijacked now just like the Coronavirus Numbers thread.
Hijacked how? This is a discussion about returning the economy to normal. What "normal" do you think is being discussed?
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Rockie wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 10:08 am Dearest JeppsOnFire.

Health and medical authorities. I thought I made that abundantly clear but I guess not, sorry for your confusion. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that if you actually took the time to listen to what they are saying you would be surprised. Try it..it won't hurt and you won't spontaneously turn into a liberal.
Blindly trust the enormous pool of ‘experts’. Thanks for your input Ms. Theresa ‘don’t-wear-a mask/definitely-wear-a-mask’ Tam.
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JeppsOnFire wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 9:07 am Dearest Rockie,
I do hope you put your helmet on today. You know, reduce the risk.

You continually harp about the ‘experts’ and the ‘consensus’ on an approach to Covid. Whose experts? Putin’s experts? China’s experts? Maybe Italy’s experts or how about Sweden? The WHO? The same WHO that is clearly politically motivated or the WHO in all their righteousness has claimed Sweden’s response was the correct one?
These ‘experts’ are all fallible. Prone to bias and influence. Whose experts do you listen to? Never mind, you’re very predictable. Like the NPC (non playable character). There are Conservative experts and Liberal experts. Socialist experts and capitalist experts. All clamouring ‘truth’ about how to respond to this pandemic.

You should consider the reliability of experts, even en masse. I had an aunt whom the experts (several) said she was fine it’s just an ulcer or reflux. She’s expertly dead from colon cancer.

Then there are the numbers which you would presume to be infallible. Yet, obviously, even the numbers are susceptible to bias. Deaths to attributes to Covid when the virus was secondary to cause of death. What numbers of infected truly exist without a positive test.

At the very beginning when the information bank was low and the situation was terrifying in Italy, I started to feel a little under the weather. I stayed at home for 3 weeks for fear of putting someone I know at risk. Didn’t leave my property. I did that because no one knew very much about this thing. That has changed. The world is no longer at the mercy of opinion now that we have experience.
Now, with all the information we’ve learned, with ICU’s in my area operating at 5% capacity, seeing the severe cases congregated amongst the older crowns. Keeping hygiene and personal space a priority - I agree with those that it’s time to emerge from this.
Plenty of people say protect the elderly and you rebuke them with ‘it’s not possible’. Well, how is it possible to protect the ENTIRE population as you suggest is prevailing course of action? Overwhelming number of NYC cases were reported to occur in the shelter at home population.
As it has always been: balancing risk, not eliminating it.
Yes, I realize this post was a waste of time. A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

Your post is a thing of beauty. I think most of us enjoyed it, but unfortunately it won't influence the target.

When one poster continually makes ad hominem attacks and relies appeals to authority, you can be sure that he has weak debate Kung Fu. He will continue to site only progressive MS media, shout down any other source of information and demonize certain world leaders, as fits his perspective and the Gated Institutional Narrative.

He will continue to scream at the sky, but others should not be afraid to contribute to the conversation, despite the fact that you are all evil and foolish and would trade lives for money.
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Something all Canadians should hear, if they haven’t before.

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You know Ronald Reagan had Alzheimers while he was president, don't you?
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ayseven wrote: Wed May 13, 2020 12:55 pm You know Ronald Reagan had Alzheimers while he was president, don't you?
And we have a ski instructor.....your point is invalid.
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Rockie will engage and argue with anyone. His posts are simple and repetitive. He’s taken up a lot of our time. Nearly 8000 posts worth.

The “medical experts” like Tam are “a$$ coverers”. It is their absolute JOB to chart the most conservative course, jobs, economy and cost be damned. They are not willing sacrifice a single life. They will not have blood on their hands. It’s the Governments responsibility to find balance. That isn’t happening, and until it does, normalcy WILL NOT return.

Justin is a coward. He refuses to step up and get things moving, and prefers to look like a “rich prince”, dolling out YOUR money hand over fist with little to no oversight.

You’d better believe he isn’t the one picking up the tab.
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