Rouge is back?

[rudder]

Rouge positions in the latest equipment bid?

[skypirate88]

Yes, but it's a flat bid. They are reducing the mainline bus while adding the Rouge spots. There is no increase in available seats, so everyone identified as surplus/furlough stay there.

[iflyroads]

Also worth mentioning:

Surplus pilots at rouge (Airbus only) will be "made whole" and re-trained to current qpos just as their mainline counter parts have been doing.

After they are trained they will be awarded flying till their layoff (should that ever come).

[Daniel Cooper]

Can surplus pilots participate in equipment bids or are they stuck in their position until they are no longer deemed surplus? I assume that is when the first furloughed pilot is recalled. Or can they be deemed non-surplus before then?

[BTD]

Can surplus pilots participate in equipment bids or are they stuck in their position until they are no longer deemed surplus? I assume that is when the first furloughed pilot is recalled. Or can they be deemed non-surplus before then?

Surplus pilots do not have bidding rights. The remain in their Qpos. Even if that position is no longer around.

[NotDirty!]

Can surplus pilots participate in equipment bids or are they stuck in their position until they are no longer deemed surplus? I assume that is when the first furloughed pilot is recalled. Or can they be deemed non-surplus before then?

No furloughed pilots need to be recalled before a surplus pilot is returned to active status. If the company decides that they need another 100 active pilots, they can put out a CMSC review reflecting that, and you will see the next 100 most senior pilots removed from the surplus list.