alkaseltzer wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:14 pm
altiplano wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:48 pm
The Constitution would be fixed under ALPA for one.
AC Pilots would have the largest say in Canada regarding Government governmental lobbying efforts for two.
We would have access to a larger pool of resources and supports for three.
It can go on and on... but going back to the first one... We were recommended by outside conservative governance experts 2 paths:
-properly fixing ACPA governance and constitution,
-joining a larger organization with its shit together.
We did neither. And what we have does not work.
ACPA has no governance oversight, no sober second thoughts, and power and information is completely centralized among a few.
We do surveys where the membership overwhelmingly said they want to hear from ALPA, but that guy quietly closed down.
We do surveys that members overwhelmingly said they didn't want the contract opened up in the recent reopener under the guidelines of the Framework MOA, and what do we get? Concessionary permanent MOAs, followed by entire rewrites in our contract including sections on scope, scheduling, reserve, and more.
We have an MEC Chair that ran on transparency and recorded votes that flip flopped.
I think it's funny that the governance committee was all fired and replaced with a new chair that lost the last time he stood for election among the membership, and members that are all MEC members.
We still have group of 27 members chairing important committees FFS.
It's incestuous.
Take a look at the transparency and information and preparation of the membership by the Delta and United MECs. There are Youtubes... watch them, and then come tell me that isn't what you'd like from your association.
If you're still looking in and comparing your wage to a regional or package tour provider or only recently unionized #2 LCC airline with a FIRST contract and thinking you're great, then you're actually delusional. Look instead at your contract 20 years ago. Then wonder how it is we are here today so much worse off and still going backwards.
So why does Project Reroute tout a great relationship with the management and ACPA...what is the point of it? Is it to ACPA-wash the furloughs? Why should furloughs even pay attention to that webinar and trust a word that is being said?
Non-response, just change the subject because it's all true.
I just can't understand why some of you guys are so happy to settle and tow the company line while we fall further and further behind every year.
As Fanblade pointed out, we horse trade and then the company sells the horse we got every time.
Capture EMJ with low rates, trade other wages to raise the EMJ rates and company gets rid of the EMJs.
Capture 319/767 leisure flying with low rates and working conditions,
spend 10 years of bargaining capital improving them and company cans the 767s and cuts 319/320/321 LCC flying drastically. Too expensive now.
Capture 767 cargo flying with low rates and substandard guarantee despite having 2x 767 wawcon already in our contract. Just watch what happens when these guys are sitting in hotels collecting the lowest guarantee and ACPA devices they have to do something by horse trading away a chunk of another part of our contract.
Remember too... the fear rumours around the F767 vote?
"If we don't do it the work will go to Transat or worse, JAZZ!"
"If we don't do it the airplanes will be sold to Cargojet and they'll get the jobs."
"If we don't do it there might be another upstart with our old airplanes that will compete with us."
"If we don't take a pay cut the company will never do cargo again."
The crazy thing with this "capture the flying" mentality is that it's already ours. Article 1 full stop.
The company makes its own business cases on if they want this type or that type, this flying out that flying, it's all done and then they come to us for the cherry on top.
Look how fast the cargo conversions were announced after our MOA vote... vote closed Friday, conversion contacts announced Monday. Remember it was only so they could "explore the opportunity" and the "10% wage concessions" was their "line in the sand" to "make the operation more profitable."
No shit 10% off of our wage will make it more profitable. 10% off pilot wages doesn't amount to a hill of beans when it comes to operating an airline though, particularly in what is currently and forecast to be the most profitable sector in it. ie. Logistics and cargo are where smart money is going right now.
Did the company go to the IAMAW guys for discounts to bring in the extra cargo ground handlers that will be needed? Or the extra engineers that will be needed? Did they go to the dispatchers? The managers? Just us because "Pilots always vote yes." We're short sighted and playing tic-tac-toe.