Take the vaccine, or lose your job - WTF?

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montado wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:36 pm Since the science keep changing. How much longer until air Canada considers two shots unvaccinated, and only people who have a third booster are vaccinated?
Still no answers, eh? Just more grievances?
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I got an answer. They said the study that said there’s zero evidence to show closing ski hills stops covid spread, was evidence that ski hills should close to stop covid spread. They also claimed when people can’t ski they also don’t have a social life outside skiing so it’s basically impossible to spread covid when skiing is closed.

Since I can’t argue with stupid. Thought I would move on to other topics.

Here is counterpoints study to tell everyone ski hills were rightfully closed. :lol:
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EDIT: Yeah. We get it. Closing ski hills is bad, so we're moving on?

Okay. So how do we convince Air Canada management to maintain their current policy of two shot vaccination? What leverage do we have to prevent a change in the future? Will ACPA do that for us?
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ikarus wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:20 pm
Who cares about the site
People who realize that the probability of this being a load of crap is directly related to the other loads of crap posted on this cesspool of a site. In other words, people who are not idiots.
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Montado----->

About skiing:
“It was not the activity of skiing that was the risk but all the things that go along with it,”
Same with Golfing:
“It was not the activity of golfing that was the risk but all the things that go along with it,”

Remember, at the beginning of this pandemic ski resorts where identified as major sources of spreading the infection in Europe! People would travel there, have fun, get infected and then bring back the new infection right into their country. But I think you are referring to those simple Canadian local ski slopes for local people with not much indoor activities. Not about those massive ski resorts.

So yes, in a way you are right it sounded very silly. But where do you draw the line? Will you have the time to figure out where to draw it? How will you implement it if you draw it? And each ski slope will be different...


Or you just put a blanket ban until things are sorted out (À la 737 Max)
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Wednesday, 11am....JT will announce the Federal gov't policy
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Montano,

You’ve completely missed the point that was made.

It’s’ a moving target. The conclusion was made after the fact. Read the whole report. Your highlighted “at this point in time”, isn’t “at the time this was implemented”.

But you understand this right ?
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Counterpoint wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:07 pm Montano,

You’ve completely missed the point that was made.

It’s’ a moving target. The conclusion was made after the fact. Read the whole report. Your highlighted “at this point in time”, isn’t “at the time this was implemented”.

But you understand this right ?
He didn't miss it... he ignored it.
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ikarus wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:32 pm Check out down town Toronto... No media coverage, tons of people...

None are currently worth your vote, none.
How many times have you attended these protests? Why do you feel they're not having an impact? If they are ineffective, then what should be done instead?

If no politicians embody your priorities, what recourse is left for you to change anything?
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TG wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:13 pm Montado----->

About skiing:
“It was not the activity of skiing that was the risk but all the things that go along with it,”
Same with Golfing:
“It was not the activity of golfing that was the risk but all the things that go along with it,”

Remember, at the beginning of this pandemic ski resorts where identified as major sources of spreading the infection in Europe! People would travel there, have fun, get infected and then bring back the new infection right into their country. But I think you are referring to those simple Canadian local ski slopes for local people with not much indoor activities. Not about those massive ski resorts.

So yes, in a way you are right it sounded very silly. But where do you draw the line? Will you have the time to figure out where to draw it? How will you implement it if you draw it? And each ski slope will be different...


Or you just put a blanket ban until things are sorted out (À la 737 Max)
Good thing BC didnt close down any ski hills. Went all winter. Thank God.
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The government has officially mandated all employers in the federally regulated transportation sector must establish a vaccination policy by October 30th:

https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-cana ... llers.html
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737Maximilian wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:57 am The government has officially mandated all employers in the federally regulated transportation sector must establish a vaccination policy by October 30th:

https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-cana ... llers.html
Jab and job or refuse and lose!
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All of us vaxxed should be happy with the anti vaxxers out there! A whole bunch of sweet positions will be opening up soon. They can literally die on their hill or fly rubber dog poop out of Hong Kong.
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imjustlurking wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:04 am Jab and job or refuse and lose!
Bingo. AC's vaccine policy is already in place. Come October 30th, any employee not double-vaccinated will no long be able to continue working.
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737Maximilian wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:50 am
imjustlurking wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:04 am Jab and job or refuse and lose!
Bingo. AC's vaccine policy is already in place. Come October 30th, any employee not double-vaccinated will no long be able to continue working.
Double vaccinated PLUS 2 weeks.

It was over if you did not get shot by Sept 15.
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rudder wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:12 pm
737Maximilian wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:50 am
imjustlurking wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:04 am Jab and job or refuse and lose!
Bingo. AC's vaccine policy is already in place. Come October 30th, any employee not double-vaccinated will no long be able to continue working.
Double vaccinated PLUS 2 weeks.

It was over if you did not get shot by Sept 15.
The federal definition of "fully vaccinated" is having completed the full vaccine course (Pfizer, Moderna, Astra Zeneca are two doses; Jennsen is one dose) plus having waited two weeks.

You were correct enough in your statement, but this topic should have complete correctness.
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Spoke with a MLO today and asked about any future disruptions with any pilots exercising their freedom of choice. Bottom line, there were numerous calls and with some angry pilots that were “stomping their feet and banging their fist” but he mentioned the one thing is they can always count on the pilots to follow suit.
As a MLO he mentioned that 90% of the time he’s dealing with the same 10% of the pilots and the ones that called and were upset are the usual suspects. I was told it falls under the category of “A big bark coming out of little puppy dogs mouth!”

Everyone is going to remain employed with the odd pilot asking for a LOA.
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imjustlurking wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:00 pm
rudder wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:12 pm
737Maximilian wrote: Wed Oct 06, 2021 11:50 am

Bingo. AC's vaccine policy is already in place. Come October 30th, any employee not double-vaccinated will no long be able to continue working.
Double vaccinated PLUS 2 weeks.

It was over if you did not get shot by Sept 15.
The federal definition of "fully vaccinated" is having completed the full vaccine course (Pfizer, Moderna, Astra Zeneca are two doses; Jennsen is one dose) plus having waited two weeks.

You were correct enough in your statement, but this topic should have complete correctness.
Thx. You are correct.

I was not sure that many Provincial Health Agencies were offering J&J availability.
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rudder wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:13 pm
Thx. You are correct.

I was not sure that many Provincial Health Agencies were offering J&J availability.
From what I can gather, Canadians were never offered the J&J COVID vaccine in Canada.

Edited for specificity.
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They weren't in Canada, but I know a number of people who got a j&j shot while traveling through the US as the we able to get it earlier that way.
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