Reserved seniority numbers at Air Canada

[Lost in Saigon]

I just had a look at the Jan 2007 seniority list and counted 49 JAZZ pilots holding reserved numbers at Air Canada. I didn't realize there was so many.

[JazzJetDriver]

"I didn't realize there was so many."

Depends which side of the fence you're on, I would have said that there should be a lot more.

[Sage]

I was told a few weeks ago by Jazz management that there were 45 ahead of me awaiting release to AC. Who knows how many behind me now.

[Inverted2]

Nice you get to hold seniority at 2 companies at the same time!!

[Stinky]

Nice you get to hold seniority at 2 companies at the same time!!

I can't imagine any of them are too thrilled about the situation. It's a small consolation.

[Glen Quagmire]

What will happen if AC has filled all of their openings by late this year/early next year while there will still be many Jazz guys with ACPA seniority numbers frozen at Jazz. Would they all slide over in the last few classes before the official thaw date or would they remain at Jazz until more hiring takes place which may not be until after 09 if at all? Just curious what might happen if this scenario unfolds, or is it a non issue with all the retirements.

[prop2jet]

I am guessing it will be a non issue with retirements, and it is possible that towards the latter part of this year they will start to crossover.

[Bede]

I just had a look at the Jan 2007 seniority list and counted 49 JAZZ pilots holding reserved numbers at Air Canada. I didn't realize there was so many.

That's a lot looking at it from the air canada side. My guess is 500 guys applied for those spots.

[yycflyguy]

I just had a look at the Jan 2007 seniority list and counted 49 JAZZ pilots holding reserved numbers at Air Canada. I didn't realize there was so many.

That's a lot looking at it from the air canada side. My guess is 500 guys applied for those spots.

Those are just the frozen numbers, it doesn't include the number of guys that have already come over from Jazz.

To play devils advocate, even if 500 applied and only 50 got hired (even though there have been more) that is a 10% success rate. The rumour was that at one time there were 5000 total applicants and only around 500 have been hired. So the Jazz 10% success rate is around what the OTS success rate has been...

[KAG]

is 10% the OTS sucess rate? Seems alittle low?!
But since Jazz employees are basically AC employed anyway - flying AC, with AC colors, AC uniforms, AC travell benifits, and so on. 10% is way to low. There should be some sort of flow through for not only pilots, but the FA's as well.
Flame away.

[thrust set]

KAG

Talk to your union and ask why wasn't a flowthrough discussed. I think the answer is they pushed for a "global" solution rather than see the junior portion of the list disappear to the mainline. During the mid nineties all you needed was a "beating heart" coming from the connectors. And it made for some fun times in the cockpit of the old Dash I bet.

Some numbers I heard not too long ago. AC hired over 435 since 2005 (this was told awhile ago so some numbers have changed). Of the Jazz pilots, 51 have come over / 49 have reserved spots/ 54 are in the pool waiting to be called. Their have been 7 Jazz pilots as well that have been excepted and turned it down for various reasons. Their has been 6 who got a letter only to reapply again and got on.

So tell me, how many have received a PFO letter? You will be surprised to know that it is not as high as you would have thought reading this forum but remember we always hear about the ones not making it but never the ones leaving.

[777longhaul]

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[Mig29]

is 10% the OTS sucess rate? Seems alittle low?!
But since Jazz employees are basically AC employed anyway - flying AC, with AC colors, AC uniforms, AC travell benifits, and so on. 10% is way to low. There should be some sort of flow through for not only pilots, but the FA's as well.
Flame away.

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Why has this thread been resurrected? It's almost 5 years old.