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Worth leaving Jazz for, Hans?
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Hopefully this doesn't involve a pink tie and a 20% pay cut.
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Inverted2 wrote:Hopefully this doesn't involve a pink tie and a 20% pay cut.
100% it will. Will be interesting to see where they get the pilots from. Because for sure the wages will not be mainline wages. I would bet my left nut on that. Also on the pink ties etc.
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'Swoop there is it!' :rock:
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:lol:
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If I were WJALPA's newly formed Negotiating Committee, I would be dropping everything right now and focusing on getting the scope clause of the century. This pink piece of garbage has the potential to do some serious damage to our profession

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And here folks is the end of an era. Luxury to meh to this.
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If the fare offers are to good to be true, then consumers should do due diligence with these LCCs.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/airline ... -1.4301505
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Inverted2 wrote:Hopefully this doesn't involve a pink tie and a 20% pay cut.


Check out this video on YouTube:

http://youtu.be/2x8D4T--0v4
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Yikes
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Any rumours on pay other than it will probably be crap? $500 maybe? It will be interesting to see where they get captains from.
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The numbers that GS has been dropping in hallway conversations with other pilots is 65% of mainline wages and benefits, and more days worked of course.
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Dangerous Goods wrote:The numbers that GS has been dropping in hallway conversations with other pilots is 65% of mainline wages and benefits, and more days worked of course.
You have got to be kidding? Is he smoking crack?
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trip G loves crack...and cheap pilots.
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PROC_HDG wrote:If I were WJALPA's newly formed Negotiating Committee, I would be dropping everything right now and focusing on getting the scope clause of the century. This pink piece of garbage has the potential to do some serious damage to our profession

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This is tricky because they all have a different OC and no official affiliation like AC and Rouge (Rouge is under a LOU in the AC contract. WS reps can't negotiate the pay rates and conditions for Encore and Swoop. So unless the company is playing nice and wants to work out a beneficial for all agreement then it's a bit of a stale mate if they are using it as a negotiating tactict.

All ALPA can do is make it as hard as possible for Swoop to get crewed, no flow with seniority, loss of WS seniority if they go for a management position at Swoop... ALPA owns the seniority, not the company. Might seem unreasonable but the union can only mirror the what is across the negotiation table. When WS plays nice then ALPA will too.
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montado wrote:Worth leaving Jazz for, Hans?
Good question. It would be, if one's goal was primarily to get a 737NG type rating then move overseas. I'm also willing to bet that regardless of how cheap "Swoop" goes, it will never pay a 737 F/O 40K a year. I just don't see that happening; then again, I've seen more shocking things in this industry.

I have a feeling this grotesque experiment will turn into another "ZIP" or "Tango", something that I hope for. We've all been responsible by playing our small part in the degradation of our industry. I just never thought it possible at this level. A guy like me, with thousands of hours of flying should not have to prostitute himself for a type rating or flight benefits.

Yet... there will always be that one individual that sais... F*ck it, I got me a NG Type Rating...
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I would be expecting a bond and all ancillary costs during training paid for by the pink pilot.
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Pardon my ignorance of all things airlines but where are the B737-800 or whatever Captains gonna come from, those guys/gals are not exactly dime a dozen this day and age.
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I can see it now...

"Come fly Swoop where we charge you to poop!!"

It's funny because it's true...
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