And what enforces the collective agreement? The law. Six of one, half dozen of the other. In case nobody mentioned it before let me enlighten you in a meet little tidbit of our current frozen agreement...basically language that says all flying will be done by pilots on our seniority list. And that seniority list dictates who does what based on position bids in seniority order.tbaylx wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:53 amLabour law does not prevent Air Canada from starting a separate B777 operation. The collective agreement with ACPA prevents that.DropTanks wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 10:25 amOh I see, so you have absolutely no regard for the law in this country. Labour law is as lawful as any other. That’s why AC CANNOT just start a B777 operation because they feel like it and have you apply. THAT is how it works.complexintentions wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:00 am With all due respect, they're WestJet's airplanes, and they are free to deploy them as they see best to maximize profit. I don't mean this unkindly, but your career progression doesn't begin to hold the same priority for the company as making money.
Does it suck? Yes. But talking about people "daring" to take a job available on the open market is just silly. I doubt there's only a handful considering it. Look at how Encore has had no problem crewing turboprops for less money.
Incidentally if Air Canada decided to open up a separate B777 operation I would most certainly have a look at applying, as that is a machine I have a few hours on. And that IS how it works. Jobs are advertised, people apply.
WJ has decided to test the resolve of the law of the land by offering Swoop to outsiders. They may be successful by I seriously doubt WJ will be able to thwart decades of labour law all by themselves. You may not like how labour law protects unionized workers but that’s how it is. Do you seriously think the labour board will just sit on their hands and let WJ open an affiliate airline to avoid unionized labour? What would the business landscape look like the next week as every other unionized company suddenly says: “holly crap! Why didn’t we think of that!?” . You really think the labour board will allow CN Rail Express or General Motors Lite or Ford Link to pop up and take all the job from their unionized counterparts? Give your head a shake.
Labour law prevents a company from changing working conditions at the existing company unilaterally, either through outsourcing existing work to a subsidiary for lower costs or non negotiated changes. It does not prevent a company from starting up a separate company for expansion with different terms and conditions and non unionized employees if it doesn't affect the working conditions of the existing employees.
Scope clauses negotiated in a contract prevent that, not labour law.
You never answered my question though...do you think the CIRB will sit back and let WJ circumvent a unionized labour group? What precedent do you think that would set for EVERY OTHER unionized company in the country? Care to wager how they’ll go?