A Big happy family.
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Re: A Big happy family.
This kind of thing is pretty standard in aviation. Look at the flight instructors who are required to be at the FTU all day and then get paid for the ONE hour they fly. It's disgraceful and should be illegal.
Re: A Big happy family.
They should at least get credit for their time spent grooming
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Does Westjet pay by air time? not block time?
Pilots too?
Pilots too?
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Re: A Big happy family.
If enough FAs speak up and file complaints that could end up with a significant amount of back pay (in a perfect world). Min credit days and duty RIGs should be a must. To do otherwise is highly questionable. Grooming is work. Full stop. I remember them saying that the 15 minutes of pay after wheels down was to cover the grooming however often enough the plane isn't even at the gate within 15 minutes. Even if it is, good luck having last guest off so you can even start grooming. That unpaid work reminds me of when they 'trialed' a new method of counting start time from when the last outer compartment door was closed and Honeywell software couldn't calculate the time properly. A few people complained and got their money most of them being told to keep quiet. This was around 4 or 5 years ago.
WJ does not pay properly. You can crow about PS, OPA, cheap flights and whatever you want....the end result is that stuff is all essentially a perk. The truth of the matter is that the mandatory component of the compensation package is sorely lacking and gets worse whenever and wherever possible. Owners? More like renters.
WJ does not pay properly. You can crow about PS, OPA, cheap flights and whatever you want....the end result is that stuff is all essentially a perk. The truth of the matter is that the mandatory component of the compensation package is sorely lacking and gets worse whenever and wherever possible. Owners? More like renters.
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Re: A Big happy family.
How is minimum wage calculated: per hour, per day, per month?
Extreme example, if you make a million dollar in the first hour of the month, do they still have to pay you minimum wage for the other hours of the month?
Extreme example, if you make a million dollar in the first hour of the month, do they still have to pay you minimum wage for the other hours of the month?
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
Re: A Big happy family.
If you were specifically told that the million was for the first hour then yes you should still be paid for any other hours you work. However when paying my employees I tell them that the million covers all the monthly hours. Suckers
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A company pays me a million the first hour.... I'm quiting after one hour!
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Re: A Big happy family.
^ Shoot, man, give it the day, at least!
Say, what's that mountain goat doing up here in the mist?
Happiness is V1 at Thompson!
Ass, Licence, Job. In that order.
Happiness is V1 at Thompson!
Ass, Licence, Job. In that order.
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Re: A Big happy family.
They are paid 80 hours minimum credit per month. Works out to more than minimum wage any way you look at it unless maybe you divide the monthly wage up by hours away from base but they are also paid per diem for that.