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Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by SwoopRecruiter » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:50 pm

Interested in working with Swoop as a pilot? We are hosting an information session Aug 8th in YEG. Please RSVP and we will send all details to confirm location and time. Please refer to the attachment below.
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by Warden » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:57 pm

No. I am not.
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by Hangry » Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:03 pm

Shocking they aren’t flooded with applicants.
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by porcsord » Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:45 pm

Do they serve pink Koolaid at swoop events?
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by dialdriver » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:27 pm

porcsord wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:45 pm
Do they serve pink Koolaid at swoop events?
Pink Lemonade. It has a bit of a sour taste.
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by daedalusx » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:28 pm

SwoopRecruiter wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:50 pm
Interested in working with Swoop as a pilot? We are hosting an information session Aug 8th in YEG. Please RSVP and we will send all details to confirm location and time. Please refer to the attachment below.
Geee wiz, even a free 737NG type rating isn't sufficient to attract a 1500hr flight instructor/'ho driver. One could only wonder why ...
Also I've heard those internal upgrade courses are going great. Lots of uh ... experience in the left seat.

Perhaps lobbying the government and hire foreign workers ? Maybe some kind of self sponsored P2F program ? It's never too late to cash in on the SJS
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In twenty years time when your kids ask how you got into flying you want to be able to say "work and determination" not "I just kept taking money from your grandparents for type ratings until someone was stupid enough to give me a job"

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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by daedalusx » Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:42 pm

SwoopRecruiter wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:50 pm
Interested in working with Swoop as a pilot? We are hosting an information session Aug 8th in YEG. Please RSVP and we will send all details to confirm location and time. Please refer to the attachment below.
Also I absolutely love your hiring website. Have you considered remodeling it to look more hip and urban ? Maybe make it more diverse and more inclusive of disabilities ? We all know hipsters beards, fedoras and washed up jeans are always synonymous with professional airline pilot but where is the virtue signaling ?


Finally, couldn't help but notice that you were too cheap to spend the 25$ and get an original stock photo and had to reuse one from a shopping site.
Maybe next time ... a photo of your employees in uniform doing their job ... or is that too embarrassing to show to the uninitiated ?

Best of luck with the open house, surely you will attract the very best most qualified applicants.

https://www.retailbiz.com.au/online-ret ... ck-frenzy/

https://career4.successfactors.com/care ... VacWFRQT09

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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by Donald » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:22 pm

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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by Donald » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:22 pm

Make sure you tell applicants about the scheduling LOU you just added.

Days off awarded on your monthly schedule that were not requested days off, are automatically grey days. Swoop can schedule for anything on grey days, and it's not paid as OT, just straight time.

That explains why recent flights have been delayed due to "pilots not answering the phone".
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by Warden » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:21 pm

Good. As far as I am concerned "grey days" can @#$! right off out of this industry. Give me a schedule, and if you want me on any other day... only if I say yes and PAY ME.

Good on them for not answering their phones, I'm assuming as long as they don't they can't get called in.
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by goingnowherefast » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:57 pm

I'm interested in working for swoop! PM me and I'll give the recruiter my address so the can come get my application in person.

My rate starts at $800/day for short daytime assignments and negotiable otherwise.

Oh yeah, 9 days notice to travel half way across the country isn't acceptable, so please be more considerate in the future.
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by sstaurus » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:16 am

I wonder if this is how ‘SwoopRecruiter’ thought this post was going to go. Or is he/she sitting there, genuinely wondering where all this hate is coming from...
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by flyinhigh » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:59 am

Swoop can Crash and Burn. In fact if that can't fill this role, it just might.

https://career4.successfactors.com/care ... veriJno%3d

I love the part that the add says this;

What about the Benjamin’s?

At Swoop, we’re committed to offering a fair and competitive total compensation package that starts with a solid base salary, and complemented by perks like performance based profit sharing, a company-matched share purchase plan, flexible group benefits and of course, flight privileges.

This place is a joke. The fact that 52 of the 52 Westjet pilots that had the opportunity to get the hell out of this place did just that says it all.
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by cloak » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:18 pm

daedalusx wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:28 pm

Geee wiz, even a free 737NG type rating isn't sufficient to attract a 1500hr flight instructor/'ho driver. One could only wonder why ...
Also I've heard those internal upgrade courses are going great....
Wow, some posts! Two questions: How are the upgrades going at your own Sunwing?! And have pilots left Sunwing for Swoop?'nuff said!

Any job has positive and negative points which only the one considering the job can judge and honestly, such abusive and derisive language is probably least helpful.

On a general note, working conditions and pay are clearly different at WestJet and Swoop. Swoop is more comparable to Sunwing and Transat narrowbody since it was modelled after them. While captains' pay is less than mainline, it does put one on WestJet seniority and years of service since they are a common bargaining unit represented by ALPA, which by the way is hard at work trying to improve things in a professional and collaborative way, not abusive language. Those considering this job or any job should do their homework and learn about the company from professional and trustworthy sources. Good luck to all.
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by kevind » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:34 pm

What about the Benjamin’s?
Does this mean they are paid in US Dollars? 30% increase would be nice.
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by M.Caribou » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:58 pm

SwoopRecruiter wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:50 pm
Interested in working with Swoop as a pilot? We are hosting an information session Aug 8th in YEG. Please RSVP and we will send all details to confirm location and time. Please refer to the attachment below.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Pound sand

Maybe try a road show at the multi ifr schools
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by daedalusx » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:06 pm

cloak wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:18 pm
daedalusx wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:28 pm

Geee wiz, even a free 737NG type rating isn't sufficient to attract a 1500hr flight instructor/'ho driver. One could only wonder why ...
Also I've heard those internal upgrade courses are going great....
Wow, some posts! Two questions: How are the upgrades going at your own Sunwing?! And have pilots left Sunwing for Swoop?'nuff said!

Any job has positive and negative points which only the one considering the job can judge and honestly, such abusive and derisive language is probably least helpful.

On a general note, working conditions and pay are clearly different at WestJet and Swoop. Swoop is more comparable to Sunwing and Transat narrowbody since it was modelled after them.
I presume you probably have company shares and I’m sure you want them to do very well but there is a simple non emotional case of demand/offer here.
If what you say is true ... why is Sunwing flooded with resumes from heavy jet skippers overseas yet Swoop can’t even seem to attract Metro drivers from northern Manitoba?
Could it be the horrible non commuting red eye schedules ?
The grey days ?
Pay is not even close to Sunwing nor transat. Especially considering a SWG driver works 8-10 days a month.

Why has every single WJ pilot has tried to bid back to escape the gulag of Canadian aviation if it’s such a great job?
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by DanWEC » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:08 pm

cloak wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:18 pm
Swoop is more comparable to Sunwing and Transat
Riigggghhttt.
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by altiplano » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:23 pm

I was curious what the job ad said on that Swoop hiring website. I couldn't find "Pilot" though, the only position under Flight Operations was "crew scheduler".

I thought this was funny:

"Answer the phone promptly demonstrating an ability to listen and empathize with crew members while ensuring a high level of internal guest satisfaction"

Is that what Swoop is calling employees (Pilots)? Internal Guests? And the schedulers are going to empathize with them... About what? The industry trailing pay and shitty schedule?
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by cloak » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:31 pm

Surely Sunwing is great for many pilots that have chosen to work there. No two people like the same thing. I only use stats, as non-emotional as it gets. Is it not true that many Sunwing pilots have left for Swoop? What's their reasoning?
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by cloak » Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:37 pm

I also find it hypocritical that pilots (assuming these posts are actually from pilots!) remonstrate Swoop's wages - that are similar to Sunwing and Transat B737 pay - yet they stay quiet about Air Canada's terrible "probationary" pay that lasts 4 lllooonnnggg years. That is the real anchor that holds pilot wages down in Canada. If pilots want to make a statement and improve pilots pay in Canada, they should say NO to Air Canada!
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by goingnowherefast » Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:49 am

ALPA may be hard at work bargaining for better WAWCON at swoop, but it makes their job a lot easier if there's no applicants.
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by KAG » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:36 am

M.Caribou wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:58 pm
SwoopRecruiter wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:50 pm
Interested in working with Swoop as a pilot? We are hosting an information session Aug 8th in YEG. Please RSVP and we will send all details to confirm location and time. Please refer to the attachment below.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Pound sand

Maybe try a road show at the multi ifr schools
Shhhh don't give them any ideas
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by tons-o-fun » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:30 am

Funny thing is for shits and gigs when Swoop first came out and had a recruiting link on their website I put my name in the hat with more than ample captain/TT time on jets, etc and didn't even get a call or email...Good Karma I guess lol
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Re: Swoop Pilot Open House & Info Session

Post by CFM Symphony » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:37 am

Dear swooprecruiter,

It’s spelled Benjamins, as in the plural form of the name Benjamin, not Benjamin’s which indicates possession. Is proper spelling an optional extra for a small fee as well?

Regards
(PS, once you correct your spelling we’ll know you lurk here)
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