1: No, I understand balance. There is no balance in your commentary, therefore it is one sided by every definition.cloak wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:46 pm 1: There are a number of pilots who perceive any message contrary to their own narrow perception as having come from “management”. You seem to be one of them! 2: However, most know that had the company offer been put to a vote, it would have passed with great majority. 3: In the place of those new reps, most would not be pressured to carry the burden of that decision alone, especially in such slim majority, and would definitely want to consult the larger pilot group.
4: But you are saying that had the company offered something between 0 and 415 layoffs, it would have been better than 0 layoffs? Please do tell!
2: Do most know that would be the outcome? I haven't seen a pollster get an election right in the last 15 years. It could have gone any direction.
3: How do you know those "new reps" were not representing their base? I don't know that they were or were not. I am positive you don't know either and you are taking a best guess based on your opinions and your circle of friends.
4: I am saying that the union went back to the table and offered to keep negotiating and that the company turned them down offering a take it or leave it approach with no middle ground. That's not a negotiation at that point. I'm saying you are mad at the union for the company's actions. I'm saying that everyone but a very tiny wedge of pilots (likely top 10% because that's pretty standard in every union I've worked in) were negatively effected but, I can't sit here and armchair quarterback that decision because I don't have all the facts and neither do you.
You sound like a person who has never faced adversity before. It happens, and it sucks. Getting mad and pointing fingers is just a giant waste of emotional and physical energy better spent on dealing with the situation you have been handed. It's been done... we don't have a time machine to go back and undo it. But, most of all, it was not only one party that was at that negotiating table and to put 100% of the blame on just one party is either an immature and simplistic way of seeing the world or a management troll here to sew the seeds of division.