Any news on the fatigue regulations recently?

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Any news on the fatigue regulations recently?

#1 Post by FL007 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:25 pm

I haven't heard much since summer of 2017. All I see now is ATAC vague scare tactics on ads threatening canceled flights unless their petition is signed. Nothing on the news, etc.

Any word on this?
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Re: Any news on the fatigue regulations recently?

#2 Post by garfield » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:14 pm

Maybe in 2081, airline lobby is too strong and I would be very surprised to see those new rules in effect anytime soon...
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Re: Any news on the fatigue regulations recently?

#3 Post by goingnowherefast » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:46 pm

About 6 months after an airline crash that is attributed to fatigue. That's what happened in the states. Canada's government is too dumb to learn from the mistakes from others. We have to kill our own citizens and learn by ourselves the hard way.
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Re: Any news on the fatigue regulations recently?

#4 Post by digits_ » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:32 pm

goingnowherefast wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:46 pm
About 6 months after an airline crash that is attributed to fatigue. That's what happened in the states. Canada's government is too dumb to learn from the mistakes from others. We have to kill our own citizens and learn by ourselves the hard way.
We should all refuse to go work for companies lobbying against the new regulations. In the current hiring climate, that might actually work....
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Re: Any news on the fatigue regulations recently?

#5 Post by Ypilot » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:52 pm

Let's agree on a date when all of the unionized pilots in the country will set the parking brake.

Ok, now you want to talk to us?
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Re: Any news on the fatigue regulations recently?

#6 Post by goingnowherefast » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:56 pm

Need to get the non-union shops on board too
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Re: Any news on the fatigue regulations recently?

#7 Post by FL007 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:31 pm

goingnowherefast wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:56 pm
Need to get the non-union shops on board too
Everyone should, the days of 14hr/8 leg days, especially on 705 aircraft need to end.

I wonder if alpa could manage a mass fight against this if they set up shop with Sky.
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Re: Any news on the fatigue regulations recently?

#8 Post by goingnowherefast » Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:39 am

I'm sure they could, but a nation wide strike mandate would probably be bad PR and distract from the real issue. The public would view ALPA as the bad guy because their flight got cancelled.

ALPA is already doing decent lobbying in Ottawa, but the operators are too. Maybe if the operators spent their lobbying budget on dealing with the implementation of the fatigue regs, we would be better off.
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Re: Any news on the fatigue regulations recently?

#9 Post by X-Snake » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:59 pm

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Re: Any news on the fatigue regulations recently?

#10 Post by 805ITT » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:39 pm

It is expected that the new regulations will be published in CG2 by the summer with a two year implementation for 705 and a 4 year implementation for everyone else.

That’s from a March briefing from TC.
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Re: Any news on the fatigue regulations recently?

#11 Post by Ypilot » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:51 pm

805ITT wrote:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:39 pm
It is expected that the new regulations will be published in CG2 by the summer with a two year implementation for 705 and a 4 year implementation for everyone else.

That’s from a March briefing from TC.
2 Years????? What a joke!
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Re: Any news on the fatigue regulations recently?

#12 Post by goingnowherefast » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:40 am

Published in their current proposed form, or are they being watered down again?
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