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PROC_HDG wrote: Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:55 pm
Lightchop wrote: Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:15 pm
Mapleflt wrote: Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:09 am Quote from above post,

"And they're all garbage airplanes that everyone hates flying."

What did that add to the conversation. It must cause you deep personal anguish to operate an fin that has SR in it's civil registration !!!!!!
Just stating a fact.

Ask any Q pilot at Jazz. Every one will tell you they are junk. From the galley to the small bins, the horrible old seats, unlinked FMSs, messed up ACARS, no LPVs, busted ass pilots seats... Like really busted, circuit breakers all out of order from the rest of the fleet making it hard to do resets and more! I'm sure I'm missing lots.
Those planes were flying for a US regional for 4 years before hitting Sky. They are 4 years older than any other Q in the Jazz fleet. I don't think the galley, the small bins, the old seats, the unlinked FMSs, the ACARS, the no WAAS or the circuit breakers have anything to do with Sky Regional. That is the spec that the airplanes came with, long before it was cool to hate on sky regional for being a "sketchy" operation.

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All I know is they are junk. And should be crushed. Jazz only took them because it meant extra flying but those tails have caused more headaches than they're worth. Send em to the desert.

Where they came from really doesn't matter that much because Sky at years to fix them. Had Jazz obtained those tails, they would be in completely different shape now. And the argument that "Air Canada had to approve any changes" well, they all now have HUDs, new interiors going in, and the seats are all fixed. Seems like they had no issues approving any of those modifications to Jazz. If I was a Q pilot at Sky and had to sit in those seats longer than an hour a day I would have booked off.

I find it really fun when you pass an enroute waypoint and the FMS decides to disconnect and the plane continues straight ahead or throws itself into a bank. Super fun. Really quality. By the way I write it up every time it happens, and it happens a lot.
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sounds like a bombardier or universal issue. Not sky. Nor have sky pilots come onto avcanada to whine about those planes in the past, just you jazzers.
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That's probably because they didn't know what they were missing.
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Mapleflt wrote: Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:26 pm Quote,

"And the argument that "Air Canada had to approve any changes" well, they all now have HUDs"

Not a very observant fellow are you, they all had HUD's when you received them from SKV !!!!!
They’ve all got HUDs alright, too bad they don’t work!

Pretty awesome when I get an APPR WARN message on damn near every landing. Or a NO FLARE annunciation on (get this) climb out.

It stays flipped up out of the way now anytime I’m in one of those SR shite boxes.
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It sounds to me like a lot of these are jazz problems. I flew the 5 planes for 3 years and while they had their share of typical bombardier stuff, nothing being mentioned on here was ever an issue.

The planes had HUDs when they got to sky. They actually had excellent dispatch reliability and on time performance for the years they operated out of YTZ.

I'm not some Sky fanboy, quite the opposite, but this is the kind of mindless misdirected whining that gives Jazz pilots a bad name.

If Jazz can't find a way to make those airplanes work short of "sending them to the desert" or "crushing" them, then that's a Jazz problem.

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I've seen more gum-wrappers than there is reading lights stuffed in rattling PSUs on Jazz machines before.

ACM's that sounded like chain-saws and squealing cargo door seals that deafen the whole Dash.

Glass houses gang. Whine whine
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Old planes are old planes. Does not matter if they are props or jets. Also, first generation of most aircraft types are somewhat unrefined. Improvements are implemented in later generations. Q400 is certainly a good example of that.
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Lightchop wrote: Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:40 pm
Victory wrote: Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:19 pm It's not easy to keep all these Air Canada feeders and their fleets sorted in your head. I didn't know they only operate Embraers.
Are you joking or....?

SR - EMB175
GGN - CRJ200 and B1900
JAZZ - Q400, Dash-8, CRJ200/900
Let me fix that for you

SR - EMB175
GGN - CRJ200 and B1900
JAZZ - Q400, Dash-8, CRJ200/900
EVAS- B1900

Apparently not so easy
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When the Sky tails came to Jazz there were definitely a lot of issues with the Huds. Pretty much all corrected now I believe. I’ve never had one with an FMS disconnect at a waypoint. The reason Jazz pilots don’t like flying them has nothing to do with SKY. It’s simply they are older planes with more hours on them and not Next Gen and the benefits that come with that
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av8ts wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:25 am
Lightchop wrote: Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:40 pm
Victory wrote: Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:19 pm It's not easy to keep all these Air Canada feeders and their fleets sorted in your head. I didn't know they only operate Embraers.
Are you joking or....?

SR - EMB175
GGN - CRJ200 and B1900
JAZZ - Q400, Dash-8, CRJ200/900
Let me fix that for you

SR - EMB175
GGN - CRJ200 and B1900
JAZZ - Q400, Dash-8, CRJ200/900
EVAS- B1900

Apparently not so easy
In the most recent AC quarterly Management Discussion and Analysis, the Express fleet chart shows Georgian as ‘other’ when it references the operator of 14 CRJ200’s. It only mentions Georgian and EVAS by name in a footnote as operators of a combined fleet of 14 B1900’s.
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So they are there as a Air Canada feeder.
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I recently had a Air Canada Captain ask me "Who is Maple?". Just because regional flying is our whole world does not mean it is everyone else's.
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The best thing that could happen for the Express pilots collectively is to be reintegrated into a single operation combined with a more substantial and transparent career path opportunity to AC.

In the meantime, multiple Express pilot groups are signing their ALPA cards and progressing to the bargaining phase. AC is stuck in an observer role as some less than experienced vendor management teams deal with unionization. AC is paying for redundancy of overhead using 4 partners doing the work that could easily be accomplished by just 1 with the requisite existing infrastructure.

The current Express model is not the best model for either the Express pilots or for AC.
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av8ts wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:25 am
Lightchop wrote: Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:40 pm
Victory wrote: Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:19 pm It's not easy to keep all these Air Canada feeders and their fleets sorted in your head. I didn't know they only operate Embraers.
Are you joking or....?

SR - EMB175
GGN - CRJ200 and B1900
JAZZ - Q400, Dash-8, CRJ200/900
Let me fix that for you

SR - EMB175
GGN - CRJ200 and B1900
JAZZ - Q400, Dash-8, CRJ200/900
EVAS- B1900

Apparently not so easy
I left EVAS out on purpose. Show me a photo of any of their planes painted in Express colors please.

Oh and now you can go from EVAS to Jazz on the "Jazz pilot pathway" program. Lol.
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Re: sky regional airlines first officers E175 job add.

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Lightchop wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:53 am
av8ts wrote: Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:25 am
Lightchop wrote: Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:40 pm

Are you joking or....?

SR - EMB175
GGN - CRJ200 and B1900
JAZZ - Q400, Dash-8, CRJ200/900
Let me fix that for you

SR - EMB175
GGN - CRJ200 and B1900
JAZZ - Q400, Dash-8, CRJ200/900
EVAS- B1900

Apparently not so easy
I left EVAS out on purpose. Show me a photo of any of their planes painted in Express colors please.

Oh and now you can go from EVAS to Jazz on the "Jazz pilot pathway" program. Lol.
Here’s one
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It’s funny what’s argued on here.... if you want a Jon and not get lost in a HR pile full of other position resumes just put the damn job position in the subject line!
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Nightryder88 wrote: Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:58 pm if you want a Jon
If I wanted a Jon, I'd be on a corner downtown wearing a short skirt.
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Lol!
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