Airlines must adapt to survive

[trey kule]

GH
I am normally not one for crystal ball gazing, but you seem quite well informed on this.
I did see a statement by the Westjet CEO that he thought Westjet might never return to its present size.
On the other hand, the majority of the aviation folks here seem to think two years. Not sure, other than pure hope and optimism, they came to that conclusion.

What is your take on the future of all the Canadian airlines? ( no criticism if you are wrong)

[mbav8r]

GH
I am normally not one for crystal ball gazing, but you seem quite well informed on this.
I did see a statement by the Westjet CEO that he thought Westjet might never return to its present size.
On the other hand, the majority of the aviation folks here seem to think two years. Not sure, other than pure hope and optimism, they came to that conclusion.

What is your take on the future of all the Canadian airlines? ( no criticism if you are wrong)

I was going to start another poll to get the age group of the 80+ 2 year voters, I suspect most of them have not seen what a collapse of demand looks like, probably mostly the 20 somethings and a few optimistic people, to be honest I can’t remember if I voted for 4 or 5 years but given where things are headed I would change it to 5+.

[telex]

Here is reality. Some airlines will file for bankruptcy protection in 2020/2021. Some will shrink and successfully restructure. Some will liquidate,

IATA would love for government to ride to the rescue. In some jurisdictions it may. In others it may not.

No rose coloured glasses.

Are you kidding?

You took the rose colored glasses off to tell me the following:

- Some airlines will succeed
- Some airlines will not succeed
- Some airlines may get financial aid
- Some airlines may not get financial aid

Can you tell me if there will be clouds in the sky tomorrow?

[Old fella]

https://thewinglet.boardingarea.com/car ... -relaunch/

Don’t know how accurate, however wouldn’t surprise me one bit. There appears to be pent up demand even from an industry that didn’t get a stellar reputation dealing with Covid-19. People are gonna have to fly to and from their cruise departure/departure points.

[Gilles Hudicourt]

One reason may be that cruise ships offer 100% refund in case cruise is cancelled.

[fishface]

https://thewinglet.boardingarea.com/car ... -relaunch/

Don’t know how accurate, however wouldn’t surprise me one bit. There appears to be pent up demand even from an industry that didn’t get a stellar reputation dealing with Covid-19. People are gonna have to fly to and from their cruise departure/departure points.

Someone once told me the cruise cities would probably be the first ones to see air travel demand. Maybe he wasn’t too far off!

But also... 600% is relative. If you had one booking and then a 600% surge in demand, it still doesn’t add up to much. But assuming there is a fair amount of cruise demand, that might paint a similar demand for air travel as well - at least we can hope for that.

[Gilles Hudicourt]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/11/business ... index.html

Avianca is over 100 years old. It is said to be the World's second oldest airline after KLM.

[Gilles Hudicourt]

With measures like this one, airlines have no chance of survival

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/u-k-q ... 05211.html

Expecting all people arriving in the UK to submit to a 14 day quarantine for the months to come is a death warrant for any UK based airline.

[rudder]

With measures like this one, airlines have no chance of survival

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/u-k-q ... 05211.html

Expecting all people arriving in the UK to submit to a 14 days quarantine for the months to come is a death warrant for any UK based airline.

Third party restriction. There will be many of those going forward. No individual airline gets to set the rules for entry in to another country.

Summer 2020 is shot. Plan revenues <25%.

Any carrier whose dominant portfolio is overseas flying is most dramatically affected. Domestic will recover first. Then trans border. Then International.

[garfield]

Yeah and I bet you're gonna have to be 14 days in quarantine again when you come back in Canada...

[dhc#]

From the National Post,

Kelly McParland: Why are the Liberals protecting the airlines at the expense of their citizens?

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/kelly- ... r-citizens