Mach1 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:19 pm
alkaseltzer wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 2:25 pm
They are still a risk, (maybe not a mortal risk) but you can still get sick. (No difference than the flu vaccine and then catching a different strain).
I have some bad news for you but it's best someone tells you this:
It's not just your imagination, the Universe is out to kill you.
Poisonous plants and animals.
Predators.
Viruses and bacteria.
Random DNA errors.
Radiation.
Giant rocks and ice moving through space at amazing speeds.
And many, many more.
And they all have one thing in common. These are all things that are beyond our control.
Life isn't safe and never will be. It's a challenge to stay alive every second of every day of your life. There's no way to childproof the Universe, so you have to either decide to live the best life you can or hide in a shelter until something kills you but, no matter the choice the outcome is always death. So, I suggest you find a way to asses your personal level of acceptable risk and live accordingly. However. don't try to force your risk assessment on everyone else because there will be those with a lower risk tolerance than you, and those with a higher risk tolerance and you can not control what others assess as acceptable. Just live your life and let other people live theirs.
I agree with the first part of your argument. Many things in the universe are out to kill us.
This is why we don’t have poison ivy growing as office plants in cockpits. This is why we have cockpit doors that are bullet proof against terrorists. This is why we track our radiation exposure now, when we are flying (unlike some other airlines) and is an evolving science. This is why we have aviation medicals to see if your DNA error had translated into a cardiovascular or neurological defect.
Who we see as a health threat, whether you are Andres Lubitz or simply someone to refuse a vaccine because of your personal reasons, we should have a choice who we want to share that cockpit with. There shouldn’t be a penalty for either party but an accommodation.
This is not the same as Flight attendants deciding how many earrings, noserings, or tattoos they want. This is not about fat shaming or the like.
The question is, from 2021 onwards, is the prospect of severe infectious disease in a cockpit, is this a human rights issue or a labour issue? Do we have to institute rapid testing before every flight? I don’t think so, it would be onerous and costly if a crew member tested positive. But to outright refuse a vaccine? Then the other crew members should have a choice whether they want to fly with that individual for hours on end. Where do we draw the line in refusing unsafe work? We can’t send a child to a public school unvaccinated, why would the rules exempt pilots and flight attendants with hundreds of lives at risk?
If you don’t want to do it, fine. Share the cockpit with someone else and have it professionally sanitized/fumigated after every leg? Fine. Have someone to fumigate the bunks on rotation? All for it.
Logistics and costs in getting it done? Highly doubtful.