Just Could Not Kickout this Crosswind

[John Desramaux]

Self explanatory.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUSqnZRxEAM

[schnitzel2k3]

That's a great call. Most guys would've been trying to make that landing happen after the wheels touched down.

S.

[Meddler]

I think they had already aborted when the wheels touched. At least I imagine that was the reason he had completely quit using the rudders by then.

[Nark]

That's a great call. Most guys would've been trying to make that landing happen after the wheels touched down.

S.

It's a shame you believe that.

[av8ts]

Not sure if the winds were beyond the aircrafts or the pilots limits but good decision to go.

[schnitzel2k3]

That's a great call. Most guys would've been trying to make that landing happen after the wheels touched down.

S.

It's a shame you believe that.

You think he should've just kept going with that? [no sarcasm]

S.

[pelmet]

Might have worked out better if he lowered the wing into wind once he kicked the rudder in. Instead the wing actually is a bit in the wrong direction, he drifts then tries to get back to the centerline with rudder and is very nose into wind and not close to being straight.

Pretty easy to analyze from my seat here. Oh well, I've screwed it up before.

[Nark]

That's a great call. Most guys would've been trying to make that landing happen after the wheels touched down.

S.

It's a shame you believe that.

You think he should've just kept going with that? [no sarcasm]

S.

Not at all. What I was commenting on is that you assume most pilots will continue down a bad path.

[sstocker31]

Let me say first that I have no experience in the RJ85/146...only 737 here, your trying to make a nice landing out of it when you should of planted the sucker and got the spoilers out to do what they are supposed to do....

[Rookie50]

Any guesses on the wind velocity?

[CpnCrunch]

Any guesses on the wind velocity?

24019G31KT

http://origin.flightaware.com/live/flig ... /EGLC/EICK
http://www.ogimet.com/display_metars2.p ... &send=send

Looks like a direct crosswind.

[Rookie50]

Hmmm. Wonder what the limts are on different gear. Know a friend of mine who flies a light bizjjet, he says it's good to 25 direct

[CpnCrunch]

https://www.regional-services.com/files ... ance_2.pdf

"Demonstrated crosswind component 35 kt"

From the video, it looks like the pilot kicked out half the crab, then went back to full crab before landing, then gave up when it was obvious that the plane was landing sideways. I'm not sure what the correct technique is for this plane, but I'm guessing some combination of kicking out the crab, wing down, and planting it on the ground would have done the job...in my professional armchair opinion.

[schnitzel2k3]

Not at all. What I was commenting on is that you assume most pilots will continue down a bad path.

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I've met enough pilots that would've kept fighting, especially once those wheels hit. Not saying all, and my overly dramatic comment of 'most' probably could've been downgraded to 'some'.

Fair enough Nark?

S.

[Nark]

Not at all. What I was commenting on is that you assume most pilots will continue down a bad path.

I've met enough pilots that would've kept fighting, especially once those wheels hit. Not saying all, and my overly dramatic comment of 'most' probably could've been downgraded to 'some'.

Fair enough Nark?

S.

I like it.

I will be so bold and to say most pilots don't have the stick and rudder skills to make a x-wind a non event.

[springlocked]

What can I say ------------ it's a smerf jet

[schnitzel2k3]

Not at all. What I was commenting on is that you assume most pilots will continue down a bad path.

I've met enough pilots that would've kept fighting, especially once those wheels hit. Not saying all, and my overly dramatic comment of 'most' probably could've been downgraded to 'some'.

Fair enough Nark?

S.

I like it.

I will be so bold and to say most pilots don't have the stick and rudder skills to make a x-wind a non event.

Agreed! Especially one approaching the demonstrated limits of a machine.

S.

[Broken Slinky]

Passengers on the left side would have enjoyed a nice view down the runway on that one.

[Strega]

I think he could have stuck it fine if he actually pushed, and held the rudder... mysterious control to some...