Malaysia’s First ‘Islam Compliant’ Airline, Rayani Air.

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Re: Malaysia’s First ‘Islam Compliant’ Airline, Rayani Air.

Post by timel » Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:23 am

AuxBatOn wrote:
timel wrote:I agree with CID.

Let's not forget that ISIS and extremism are the result of political actions of the west.
Let's not forget that rapist and sex offenders are the result of promiscuous actions of the girls.
Haa come on!! That's cheap. Rapists do exist in every culture and conflicts.
Ever heard of rape during WW2 that were done by US soldiers?
I hope the rapist in Cologne will all be caught, judged and treated like they should be, criminals.

In order to fight the Russian communism in Afganistan CIA was airdropping tons of korans. Now we are all falling off our chairs because they are entrenched Muslims.
I read pilot testimonies on the topic.
It was those years when Ben Laden was a freedom fighter...
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Post by crazyaviator » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:42 pm

People in power create the monsters, leaving the ruled peasants to be torched by the flames coming out of the mouth of that beast
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Post by complexintentions » Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:42 am

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complexintentions wrote:I just wish that instead of worrying about freedom of religion, we concentrated more on the importance of freedom FROM religion.

Good thing Canada isn't inviting tons of people with rigid religious beliefs inside her borders, of a religion that isn't particularly compatible with the ones the founders of the country had...because that could cause problems! Sure glad THAT isn't happening. :cry:
Yah good thing. Bad thing is that idiots like you bleat about things you don't have a clue about. You've bought in to the mass media bigotry and ignorance. Pathetic. You may want to read up on the secular nature of our prescribed rights and laws before you make such a near sighted comment again. You may also want to research the actions of maniacs of other religions including Christianity based faiths. Start with the Crusades. And while you're at it, look in to Abrahamic religions. You'll find that Islam isn't as far off the tenants of the old testament as you may think.

And no...I'm not Muslim, not that there would be anything wrong with that.
Yep, you're right. I have no idea about how Islam and Islamic-run states work, only having lived in one for a decade. Setting that aside, my comment was "freedom FROM religion". All of them, major ones, including Christianity, Judaism, weirdo cults, the works. Lack of rationality and critical thinking is what will destroy civilization faster than anything else. I don't give a rat's ass how close Islam or any cult is to the TENETS of any religious tome. My whole point is the sheer lunacy of continuing to hold to these outdated and irrelevant beliefs in our supposedly secular world. It might have worked when people were separated by time and distance, and there were a few billion less of us. Everyone could worship whatever Flying Spaghetti Monster they wished, to their heart's content. But it's utter folly in the current age. Christopher Hitchens, how we miss thee! And George Jonas. Such losses...

"Mass media bigotry and ignorance"? Really? If anything the media in places like Cologne and Stockholm took great pains to downplay, under-report, and just plain obfuscate the crimes that were committed in those places. Political correctness gone mad.

But it doesn't change the fact of history that Canada has strong Judeo-Christian roots, that are about to find out just how compatible they are with a competing nonsensical school of thought.

Love the trotting out of the old "Crusades" reference. You do know they ended quite some time ago, right? Along with the Inquisition and so on. And hopefully, one day Islam will evolve to the point where the radicals don't feel the need to commit horrendous acts of violence to further their own small-c crusade. But we're not there yet, not even close. Denial is the worst possible defence. But how does acknowledging the historical fact of one religion's barbaric acts justify another's? Seriously, wtf kind of twisted non-logic is that? What do the acknowledged historical crimes of Christianity have to do with today's Islamic militants? To my knowledge, there are not millions of Catholics trying to claim refugees status in Saudi Arabia lol! Try and keep points relevant.

As far as the whole "blame ISIL/Al Queda/etc/etc on the CIA, the US, the West" meme...how much rationalization does it take to absolve people of their individual responsibility? I think many are getting tired of having people who hack innocent people's heads off portrayed as victims. I know I am.

It's easy to toss around attempted insults like "bigot" when you live inside the Canadian PC bubble. Try getting out a bit more. Live in the ME for an extended time and try to hold on to your quaint multicultural views. I dare you.
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Post by JohnnyHotRocks » Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:47 am

timel wrote:
AuxBatOn wrote:
timel wrote:I agree with CID.

Let's not forget that ISIS and extremism are the result of political actions of the west.
It was those years when Ben Laden was a freedom fighter...
I believe back then he was known as Obi Wan Laden :roll:
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Post by CID » Thu Jan 14, 2016 9:13 am

Yep, you're right. I have no idea about how Islam and Islamic-run states work, only having lived in one for a decade.
Ever lived in Northern Ireland? You say you lived in ONE Islamic run state. How about a Jewish state?

And don't discount The Crusades as some ancient "blip" in the history of the world. The Crusades obliterated a pile of people and focused on Muslims a lot.

How about Timothy McVeigh? David Koresh? I don't recall either of them being Muslim. How about all the good Christians in the US banning evolution in schools, killing abortion doctors and burning crosses in the front yards of people with dark skin?

How about that fellow in BC who felt threatened enough by Islam to pepper spray a crowd with defenseless men, women and children?

I don't need to go back to the crusades to validate your first point that ALL religions have room for radicalization and Christians have no monopoly on good over evil, historically or present day.

I have never lived in a Muslim country but (surprise) I've spent a fair amount of time in them. Some are much more rigid than others. Not much different than other non-secular and secular states alike.

You can fool yourself into thinking that Canada and the US have "Judeo-Christian" roots and that is still relevant but the reality is that our society has developed and evolved in spite of those influences. The 10 commandments are absolutely not the basis of our laws. The Bible is contrary to our rights. Canada's laws (correctly most of the time) concentrate on the "Golden Rule" rather than the rule of any "god". If that wasn't true, non-believers would be killed, Gays would be killed (not just barred from marriage) slavery would not be outlawed, and we would still be burning people at the stake.

But I digress. Your speech is laced with xenophobic views. Trying to rationalize bigotry towards any single demographic is just wrong.
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Post by helicopterray » Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:35 pm

So, how long do you think this airline will last?
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Post by Meddler » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:44 pm

Good question. Probably until the God of economics wills it to...
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Post by complexintentions » Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:53 am

But I digress. Your speech is laced with xenophobic views. Trying to rationalize bigotry towards any single demographic is just wrong.
You're just grasping. Trying to rationalize the present evil acts of one religion with the past evil acts of another. Great argument!

Yes, wrap yourself in the convenient blanket of throwing words like "xenophobe and bigot". The last stand of a lost debate. Thing is, I don't care who comes into Canada, because I don't live there. I am simply pointing out an uncomfortable truth, that some beliefs are not compatible with others. As you and I illustrate ourselves. And the PC crowd goes bananas.

Get into the real world. Canada - lovely place that it is - isn't it.

Ask the Germans and the Swedes how things are working out. Hint: they aren't. Deny it, dislike the fact, who cares. It's still true.
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Post by crazyaviator » Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:45 pm

Zenophobic :
having or showing a dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries.
Prejudice : is prejudgment, or forming an opinion before becoming aware of the relevant facts of a case.
Bigotry : intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

Concerning the muslim situation

Zenophobia , Im sure neither Complexintentions nor myself dislike folks in other countries who do not hate or do harm against innocent people

Prejudice , Im sure neither complex nor myself have formed an opinion or pre-judged any muslim terrorist WITHOUT the FACTS of them doing harm against innocent people.

Bigotry , Im sure neither complex nor myself hold ANY intolerance towards those who hold different opinions but rather we both do not tolerate those who would do harm against innocent people

CID ,You are an asswipe of the highest proportions and someone who has been brainwashed to the greatest extent ,, BUT, there is still hope for you and millions of Canadians who have drank the kool-aid :)
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Post by JohnnyHotRocks » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:01 pm

Zenophobe? Ben Laden?
Could you people please use the spell check???
Rant over....
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Post by crazyaviator » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:18 pm

Johnnnee, do you have anything to addd to the convarsateon ?
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Post by Moose47 » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:28 pm

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Post by timel » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:59 pm

JohnnyHotRocks wrote:
timel wrote: It was those years when Ben Laden was a freedom fighter...
I believe back then he was known as Obi Wan Laden :roll:

I am not a fan of the republican BS.... But yup Osama was a freedom fighter, even Ron Paul says it.

http://youtu.be/XguvMUUtTtI

Anyway...
JohnnyHotRocks wrote:Zenophobe? Ben Laden?
Could you people please use the spell check???
Rant over....

I know you are the center of the world.
For your education.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden#Name
There is no universally accepted standard for transliterating Arabic words and Arabic names into English;[20] however, bin Laden's name is most frequently rendered "Osama bin Laden". The FBI and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), as well as other U.S. governmental agencies, have used either "Usama bin Laden" or "Usama bin Ladin". Less common renderings include "Ussamah bin Ladin" and, in the French-language media, "Oussama ben Laden". Other spellings include "Binladen" or, as used by his family in the West, "Binladin". The decapitalization of bin is based on the convention of leaving short prepositions, articles, and patronymics uncapitalized in surnames; the nasab bin means "son of". The spellings with o and e come from a Persian-influenced pronunciation also used in Afghanistan, where bin Laden spent many years.
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Post by JohnnyHotRocks » Sat Jan 16, 2016 7:06 am

crazyaviator wrote:Johnnnee, do you have anything to addd to the convarsateon ?
Actuallie, I do knot
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Post by Vanguard » Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:13 pm

crazyaviator wrote: CID ,You are an asswipe of the highest proportions and someone who has been brainwashed to the greatest extent ,, BUT, there is still hope for you and millions of Canadians who have drank the kool-aid :)

LOL. I think you need to realize who drank the kool-aid here. I seriously love how obliviously unaware and dumb you are being. Both you and the other guy need to do some research and learn. Even tolerance at this point would help. I'm not one to take sides but nothing CID has said so far is incorrect.
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Post by complexintentions » Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:42 pm

Meanwhile, six Canadians are killed by Al Queda. Shhhhh....keep dreaming....everything's fine...back to sleep...there there...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat ... e28234813/
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Post by timel » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:17 pm

400 kidnaped in Syria....
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-midea ... SKCN0UV09X

Attacks in Jakarta....
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-t ... ce-n497186
complexintentions wrote:Meanwhile, six Canadians are killed by Al Queda. Shhhhh....keep dreaming....everything's fine...back to sleep...there there...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat ... e28234813/
And do what? More bombs? On who?
Daesh is spreading like gangrene in underdeveloped nations. Anyone knows why?
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Post by iflyforpie » Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:54 pm

Complex, by your admission you've lived ten years in an Islamic country. One that is governed by Sharia Law, has the largest Islamic country to the south with a horrifying record of human rights violations, one to the north which is half overrun by a rogue Islamic Caliphate, one across the gulf which is also run by a bunch of clerics under Sharia Law with a litany of human rights violations.... and you're concerned about a few Muslims coming to Canada? Good God....if you really believe what you're saying, you're sitting on 100kT of TNT, telling us not to play with firecrackers.
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Post by crazyaviator » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:32 pm

And thus saith the Lord " The love for tax free american dollars is the root of all foolishness " or words to that effect :lol:
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Post by crazyaviator » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:35 pm

IMHO, ALL muslims must renounce islam when they enter Canada, if they do not or are found to be slipping back to the 14 th century,,,,,OUTTA HERE :arrow:
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Post by crazyaviator » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:42 pm

Anyone knows why?
1) Power vacuum ( caused by the imperialists)
2) Proxy wars ( caused by the imperialists)
3) Iraq/ previous devestation ( caused by the imperialists)
4) Arming and training MANY "seperatists" movements by the ( imperialists)
5) Syria uprising and ousting of Assad ( caused by the imperialists)
6) Sectarian control/division ( aided and abetted by the,,,,,,,)
7) A religion ( Islam) which commands jihad and world domination ,( angered and fuelled by the ,,,,,,,,,,,,,)

As we know, this is not a first world problem :rolleyes:
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Post by CID » Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:32 am

CID ,You are an asswipe of the highest proportions and someone who has been brainwashed to the greatest extent ,, BUT, there is still hope for you and millions of Canadians who have drank the kool-aid
IMHO, ALL muslims must renounce islam when they enter Canada, if they do not or are found to be slipping back to the 14 th century,,,,,OUTTA HERE
And with that, crazyaviator verifies that he is ether a xenophobic, ignorant, misinformed, vile human or an incredible troll. Based on other posts, he/she is also a very poor speller which is understandable since he/she comes across as uneducated.

Having dealt with the lunatic fringe, I want to clarify something. I don't think that any single religion is "bad". They are ALL bad and have the potential to create evil people. The most stable and safe countries in the world just happen to be the most secular countries in the world. When a country bases their legal system on literal passages of a single religious text, there is very little room for progress or freedom or sanity for that matter. That goes for Islamic states as much as it goes for Jewish or Christian states.

Unfortunately, the US is leaning towards non-secular government at the state level thanks to bigots and xenophobes like crazyaviator. And they justify their prejudice by thumping their bible.
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Post by B208 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:31 am

CID, you are an absolute cultural Marxist. :finga:
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Post by crazyaviator » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:50 am

let me repost:
Prejudice : is prejudgment, or forming an opinion before becoming aware of the relevant facts of a case.
Bigotry : intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

Concerning the muslim situation

Zenophobia , Im sure neither Complexintentions nor myself dislike folks in other countries who do not hate or do harm against innocent people

Prejudice , Im sure neither complex nor myself have formed an opinion or pre-judged any muslim terrorist WITHOUT the FACTS of them doing harm against innocent people.

Bigotry , Im sure neither complex nor myself hold ANY intolerance towards those who hold different opinions but rather we both do not tolerate those who would do harm against innocent people
FYI, There is nowwhere in NT scripture that allows for hate . Zenophobia, Prejudice, bigotry etc. What you drag up from the past is what was called a crusade, it was as a result of HUNDREDS of years or persecution by muslims, carried out by an apostate religion ( the cult of catholicism) and in no way reflects the NEW covenant made with followers of Yahshua.

There is very little to NO persecution by true christians against moslims today. ( The jews are NOT christians and are apostate) Christians in muslim countries are sitting ducks and do give up their lives for the cause

If the folks in muslim countries would repent from their foolish anti-christ ways, I would gladly accept them with open arms ,,,I wont accept people who stab me in the back due to their sick religion :)
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Post by crazyaviator » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:01 am

On the plate, there is good food and poison but they look the same ,,,day after day, you and your family wisely choose the good food and live a healthy life. but others know not the difference and are choosing the poisonous fruit and are dying ! This is the muslim situation in Canada. Lots of good Muslims picking the good fruit ( out of the Koran,) BUT there are folks eating and offering the bad fruit ( radicals, bad apple imams in mosques etc)
WISDOM would say that you throw the food out and replace it ALL with good food, fit for everyone. ( for the bad food does get mixed in with the good food and who then can tell the difference? )

If someone wants to play russian roulette, go to the middle east and sample the food
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