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They must be high when they came out with the name.
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I suppose it's easy to be negative and sceptical, however at least this upstart Leisure travel company is associated with an established airline and its infrastructure. They certainly (at this point) seem have a leg-up on the other two who wish to venture in the same area. I hope it works and wish them best of luck.
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Great. Not needed. Move on.
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With a bit of luck they will go down the toilet and take those Flair numpties with them.
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Curious wallflower. Why do you say that? Who do you work for?
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This is a disaster waiting to happen imo. :lol:
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I can't disagree with the sentiment that this proposed venture has a difficult chance of surviving, let alone succeeding.

But instead of gleefully predicting their demise, perhaps it would be more constructive to try and investigate - why? Why is Canada such a shit country to try and start and run a business in? And why do Canadians just roll over and take it with the monopolies, duopolies, fixed pricing, and the like: from airlines to insurance to real estate cartels to telecoms and on and on. Could it be perhaps because any time a new entrant in any of the aforementioned fields tries to start up, it's met by jeers and lack of support, or more often, indifference?

Seems like far more of a serious concern than one new airline attempting to make a go of it.

You'd think pilots would WANT a new airline to start and succeed, hell would support any initiative that grows or enhances the industry, yet on an aviation forum, it mostly elicits knowing chuckles.

Tragic, really.
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2 planes....that is about 20 pilot jobs.
15 in a couple of years....150 pilot jobs.

Yep complex, it baffles me as well why people who cry that there are no jobs for them dont wish this new company great success,

It is not all that long ago that a little startup was running three jets between places like Calgary, Edmonton and Grand prairie. People said they would never compete with Air Canada. Maybe you have all heard of them...Westjet

I wish them all the best.
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ULCC = ULCEmployees and unless experienced airline pilots are willing to accept a ULCWage and compensation package theses ULCCs will have ULExperience sitting up front and I wouldn't put my family in their hands.

Hope I'm wrong.
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The thing I like about your posts, Complex, is they mirror my view, saving me from writing.

I read a tread like this and I can't believe some people would like to see the industry shrink. Then, they'll have more to whine about. Unless I'm missing something.
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FICU wrote:ULCC = ULCEmployees and unless experienced airline pilots are willing to accept a ULCWage and compensation package theses ULCCs will have ULExperience sitting up front and I wouldn't put my family in their hands.

Hope I'm wrong.

Does that also mean you wouldn't let you family fly on Encore?
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I would not put my family on any ULCC Asian or European airline.

My family has not flown on Encore.

I fly Air Canada for pleasure travel.
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...except to Halifax.
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:lol:
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FICU wrote:I would not put my family on any ULCC Asian or European airline.

My family has not flown on Encore.

I fly Air Canada for pleasure travel.

Which European airlines?
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ugh.....nevermind
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Is there any connection between Flairs 737 parked here in YWG lately? Or does it have to do with the FIFA Womens World Cup? There's only one now, but there was two about 4 days ago.
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FICU wrote:ULCC = ULCEmployees and unless experienced airline pilots are willing to accept a ULCWage and compensation package theses ULCCs will have ULExperience sitting up front and I wouldn't put my family in their hands.

Hope I'm wrong.

Air Canada/Westjet/Jazz/Sky Regional/Porter have hired their FO's coming off B1900's and even PC12's. If an ULCC starts up, their captains will be more than likely, typed with experience and their FO's will come from the same pool that every other Canadian carrier draws from. Where is the jeopardy/threat?
With naive statements like that you'd be a shoo-in to become an aviation reporter for our many laughable media sources.
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