New Leaf (ULCC) starts February 12

[AirMail]

You people amaze me. You keep complaining that there is no jobs available and yet you want new start ups to go down.

I think it has to do with the carrier that most dislike

[AlphaOne]

Ill just leave this link here for Realitychex...

http://www.schizophrenia.com/szparanoid.htm

[Old fella]

You people amaze me. You keep complaining that there is no jobs available and yet you want new start ups to go down.

I think it has to do with the carrier that most dislike

Well....... it just that many have seen the playbook before on start-up LCC http://www.jetlines.ca/ This company has been ongoing past few years with grand plans for B737 purchases and they were scheduled to start some type of operation summer 2015- didn't happen. Now this NewLeaf was to start with bookings for Feb 2016, now spring is set as the revised start(booking refunds given to those who went along) citing issues with CTA. I believe there is a third company with similar proposals of some sort.

A healthy degree of skepticism amongst the chattering class is certainly understandable.

[Realitychex]

Ill just leave this link here for Realitychex...

http://www.schizophrenia.com/szparanoid.htm

Typically useful analysis, using the finest of sources.

Well done. You add much to the discussion.

[plhought]

....the lift they now require, not to mention the general public, that the jig was up...

So...the local rumour-mill was saying Flair had stepped away from the deal...Is this what you're saying as well?

[brooks]

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[Realitychex]

....the lift they now require, not to mention the general public, that the jig was up...

So...the local rumour-mill was saying Flair had stepped away from the deal...Is this what you're saying as well?

[KAG]

As much as I dislike low paying gigs, why not just wait and see what what the wawcon will be before we pass judgement.
Also, this race to the bottom (cost at all cost) is not limited to our industry, it's everywhere. It's up to us to push back.

[wallflower]

Well whatever the truth is, and who knows, these people are practiced at telling lies, it's good that CTA is acting to keep fiascos like this out of Canadian skies and protecting the public from losing their money or worse.

[flyboyz]

Cant anyone be positive about a new company that allows passengers to travel across Canada without breaking the bank. Of course we should be skeptical of a low cost carrier but it can only make Canadian aviation a better and more affordable market. It also creates more jobs which is great for anyone in the industry. I for one hope that this new venture makes its way out the gates.
Are any of you pilots or just people who like to argue on the internet anonymously?

[piperdriver]

Cant anyone be positive about a new company that allows passengers to travel across Canada without breaking the bank. Of course we should be skeptical of a low cost carrier but it can only make Canadian aviation a better and more affordable market. It also creates more jobs which is great for anyone in the industry. I for one hope that this new venture makes its way out the gates.
Are any of you pilots or just people who like to argue on the internet anonymously?

I think the majority of posters are just being realistic. I happen to agree with the majority that if they do start up they last for maybe 3 to 6 months, unless of course they are backed financially by private investors like Porter. Just my 2 cents but I don't think ULCC business model will work in Canada.

[Old fella]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/discoun ... -1.3411724


Certainly some interesting commentary from both sides of the fence

[wallflower]

Any news of this. 2 weeks now since the CTA review was supposed to be completed, hopefully both parties will fade away and die.

[Realitychex]

The CTA has nothing to do with New Leaf's problems.

[HiLo]

Saw 2 Flair 737s sitting at the CYHM terminal yesterday. Are they just gathering dust, or are they being used?

[flyinhigh]

CTA approves operations for New Leaf.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/busine ... 35021.html

[MyWave]

CTA approves operations for New Leaf.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/busine ... 35021.html

Sssh. Don't tell Wallflower.

[brooks]

Your move Flair. $10 they don't reboot, but then again I've been wrong before.

[Rookie50]

Cant anyone be positive about a new company that allows passengers to travel across Canada without breaking the bank. Of course we should be skeptical of a low cost carrier but it can only make Canadian aviation a better and more affordable market. It also creates more jobs which is great for anyone in the industry. I for one hope that this new venture makes its way out the gates.
Are any of you pilots or just people who like to argue on the internet anonymously?

I think the majority of posters are just being realistic. I happen to agree with the majority that if they do start up they last for maybe 3 to 6 months, unless of course they are backed financially by private investors like Porter. Just my 2 cents but I don't think ULCC business model will work in Canada.

It is sad how industry is so protected in this country as a general comment.

Ie look at the ridiculous state of the wireless industry, the real estate industry, financial planning industry. I could go on and on. What happened ie for the reforms that were to happen in these industries? Real estate is the most overpriced service on earth. After so many years the competition bureau could not force open source information. Toothless.

It's no wonder the best and brightest have so often left Canada.

This really is as so many define it a protected Nanny state, and a country club for the established. Members only!

[plhought]

I'm surprised it took the CTA this long to figure it out - the Go Jump On! guys have been reselling seats for a while. http://www.gojumpon.com