I've bought a canoe. I've a cessna 182. I've questions.

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I've bought a canoe. I've a cessna 182. I've questions.

Post by x-wind » Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:44 am

Hey all,

Bought a canoe in the province next door, Saskatchewan. It's an 16 hour round trip to fetch it. My contacts in the airline world, WJ cargo, will be of no assistance apparently as the my 17' foot canoe is 7' too long to get in the cargo pit. May investigate this further with a tape measure.

I can't see it but any way to get a canoe roped onto a C182 on wheels?

Or anybody heading through Regina westbound for Alberta with a truck or roof rack on their car willing to help a guy out?

Cheers,
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Post by PilotDAR » Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:59 am

any way to get a canoe roped onto a C182 on wheels?
I speak with experience: Not within your budget.
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Post by crazyaviator » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:25 am

Attach winglets and pull it like an unmanned drone. DAR should be able to help you there :D
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Post by photofly » Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:13 am

Just ... don't forget to airbrush out your registration ...?
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Post by Notta Simfalt » Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:52 am

Transport truck would be way cheaper than going for it.
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Post by Meddler » Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:35 pm

The 16 hrs driving would fly by compared to whatever flight time you would spend wondering if you re about to die...

I would say buy some floats for the 182. Then go get it. You'll get two birds stoned at once!

In all seriousness I can't imagine any way it would work on wheels without some major mods.
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Post by co-joe » Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:33 pm

I would think that the point of owning a canoe is to paddle it. Gear up, and get paddling. I'm sure the waterways connect somehow. Man what an adventure.
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Post by x-wind » Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:46 pm

"The 16 hrs driving would fly by compared to whatever flight time you would spend wondering if you re about to die..."

Wise advice.

I got a roof rack for my CRX, it'll be enough of an adventure on the highway.
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Post by Rookie50 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:58 pm

x-wind wrote:Hey all,

Bought a canoe in the province next door, Saskatchewan. It's an 16 hour round trip to fetch it. My contacts in the airline world, WJ cargo, will be of no assistance apparently as the my 17' foot canoe is 7' too long to get in the cargo pit. May investigate this further with a tape measure.

I can't see it but any way to get a canoe roped onto a C182 on wheels?

Or anybody heading through Regina westbound for Alberta with a truck or roof rack on their car willing to help a guy out?

Cheers,

Uhhhhh --- no...........
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Post by Meatservo » Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:38 pm

x-wind wrote:Hey all,

Bought a canoe in the province next door, Saskatchewan. It's an 16 hour round trip to fetch it. My contacts in the airline world, WJ cargo, will be of no assistance apparently as the my 17' foot canoe is 7' too long to get in the cargo pit. May investigate this further with a tape measure.

I can't see it but any way to get a canoe roped onto a C182 on wheels?

Or anybody heading through Regina westbound for Alberta with a truck or roof rack on their car willing to help a guy out?

Cheers,
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Post by PilotDAR » Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:04 am

Similar things have been done, but not cheap or simple. This is a 172 I test flew, and actually you could hardly tell that the pod was there.

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But there can be small aerodynamic gotchas. Any boat with a stern goes stern first, or else vortex shedding off the aft end can create violent shaking. I have experienced such vortex shedding flying external mods on both airplanes and helicopters, and it makes you want to be back on the ground fast. Fortunately in helicopters you can hover it back, but not so in a plane. Once while flight testing a Navajo, I had the plane bouncing so much because of the external mod that the wings were visibly flapping, and I was being bumped up and down in my seat. The fix was simple, as I applied two strips of foam rubber tape, at just the right place, and it was then smooth as glass.
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Post by 7ECA » Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:48 pm

Well, if you can get a snowmobile in a Navajo, hell a canoe in a 182's got to be doable.

DAR, what was the purpose of that 172 mod?
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Post by SuperchargedRS » Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:11 pm

Just thinking of how you're going to attach a canoe to a single strut trike, I can't really picture a good way that doesn't put that canoe at a bad angle from the relative wind.

Heck I'm even hesitant to strap a canoe to my 185 amphib
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Post by photofly » Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:16 pm

Strap it under the fuselage.
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Post by groncher » Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:23 pm

Try contacting one of the outfits or private guys that haul new campers back and forth across the country. I think there is one called Saskatoon Hotshots (or something similar). They sometimes are empty or may have space to tie one on their roof racks. I moves some stuff from Calgary to Ontario a number of years ago and the price was reasonable. Sorry I don't have any contact info anymore
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Post by co-joe » Thu Mar 03, 2016 4:02 pm

Wow :lol: a 17 foot canoe on a CRX? :lol: now I see the problem. If would almost be faster paddling with the CRX IN the canoe.
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Post by PilotDAR » Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:19 pm

DAR, what was the purpose of that 172 mod?
The pod carried optical survey equipment which required a hole bigger than we wanted cut in the floor of the 172, and, removing the pod very quickly returned the plane to its four seat flight training role when it was not surveying.
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Post by 900 HP » Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:14 pm

I will deliver it via the water come breakup. My day-rate is $500 :)
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Post by Broken Slinky » Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:35 pm

What's that javalin looking thing zip tied to the end of the wing PilotDAR?
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Post by GyvAir » Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:42 pm

Broken Slinky wrote:What's that javalin looking thing zip tied to the end of the wing PilotDAR?
New X-Games sport.. air jousting!
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Post by PilotDAR » Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:00 am

New X-Games sport.. air jousting!
And I was the victor :twisted: (with a bit of a bend....). No...

It's a swiveling pitot static so that I can more accurately measure airspeed at unusual attitudes, with reduced (or ideally no) position error.
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Post by Broken Slinky » Fri Mar 04, 2016 3:45 pm

Very cool, now I know.
Assumed it was maybe a limp wristed revenge of the nerds javalin. :)
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Post by RatherBeFlying » Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:49 pm

Slice the boat into sections, stack inside, and fibreglass back together at destination or convert it to a take apart canoe :smt040

Or buy a Twotter - you can get three inside.

Back in the fur trade days, the locals might be hired to get it upriver. Europeans these days only go downstream. They use a car or floatplane to get upstream.
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