This position would be based out of our Oshawa Airport (CYOO) location. A 3 year up-front Training Bond would apply.
OUCH. Wonder what the upfront amount is for a Falcon 20? A friend of mine received an offer for a King Air 200 with them, it was $9500 upfront..and you had to live in Iqaluit making 30k a year.
This is one the worst operators in southern Ontario!! not only do I say to run away as fast you can for your own sake but it would be awesome if he can't even fill the position, some of his own employees have refused to get typed on it because of his ridiculous demands. You would have absolutely no life and be on call 24/7 with an hour call out. Oh and the day there was no flight booked well guess what?! That was your day off!! Hope you enjoyed being within an hour the airport waiting for a call that never came! Not only is the CP not safe but he also treats his employees the worst I have ever seen personally! I wouldn't ask for a job from this pace even if I was jobless.
Blueontop wrote:This is one the worst operators in southern Ontario!! not only do I say to run away as fast you can for your own sake but it would be awesome if he can't even fill the position, some of his own employees have refused to get typed on it because of his ridiculous demands. You would have absolutely no life and be on call 24/7 with an hour call out. Oh and the day there was no flight booked well guess what?! That was your day off!! Hope you enjoyed being within an hour the airport waiting for a call that never came! Not only is the CP not safe but he also treats his employees the worst I have ever seen personally! I wouldn't ask for a job from this pace even if I was jobless.
Thanks for your post. We need more like them so long as the assessments contained inside them can be justified.
The ad alone says this is a shite company.
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years back 10+ was offered a ka200 capt position there. Basically 12k with move and bond, and if they liked me they'd give me a job. I countered with money in escrow, if i left they got it. they passed, i'm happy they did
I honestly don't know where some pilots can come up with this kind of money on hand. A lot of banks are willing to give you a loan at the right interest rate.... At least Air Nunavut pays back the bond with interest (second hand information) unlike some other companies that just pay the principle. But that's besides the point.
Ah well, I wonder how many nibbles they will get on their ad.
That place is the land of the desperate. Low time people with a basic IFR and no ATPL seem to go there to get those requirements. That describes a few people I know who have gone there. They all had 13-1600h TT 3-400 mpic vfr maybe 50h simulated IFR and no instructor rating. One of them even said "the ends justify the means". He now flys a 705 jet. Companies don't seem to care where you got your time just that you have it and you don't come across as a dick.
iflyroads wrote:
OUCH. Wonder what the upfront amount is for a Falcon 20? A friend of mine received an offer for a King Air 200 with them, it was $9500 upfront..and you had to live in Iqaluit making 30k a year.
Is this the new industry norm now? Brutal!
If the training is on wing I can't even imagine the cost, if it's in sim, it should be the exact same cost as a 200 no?
iflyroads wrote:
OUCH. Wonder what the upfront amount is for a Falcon 20? A friend of mine received an offer for a King Air 200 with them, it was $9500 upfront..and you had to live in Iqaluit making 30k a year.
Is this the new industry norm now? Brutal!
If the training is on wing I can't even imagine the cost, if it's in sim, it should be the exact same cost as a 200 no?
Really just depends on where they use the sim.. A lot of places charge a hefty fee for sim instructors and that price varies from aircraft to aircraft
iflyroads wrote: At least Air Nunavut pays back the bond with interest (second hand information) unlike some other companies that just pay the principle. But that's besides the point.
I'm not an expert on training bonds because I've never had one. When it was demanded, I refused.
Anyway, you'd think there'd be a legal requirement to pay interest. I know there is with a housing damage deposit. A training bond isn't their money to use while you're employed there.
iflyroads wrote: At least Air Nunavut pays back the bond with interest (second hand information) unlike some other companies that just pay the principle. But that's besides the point.
I'm not an expert on training bonds because I've never had one. When it was demanded, I refused.
Anyway, you'd think there'd be a legal requirement to pay interest. I know there is with a housing damage deposit. A training bond isn't their money to use while you're employed there.
I know of at least 2 companies that don't pay it back with interest. One of them an Air Canada Express partner. Not sure about the legality if it but they havent had an issue filling a ground school yet.
