Time Running Out to sign
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Time Running Out to sign
Time is running out to sign the petition calling on the federal government for Safer Skies http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/ti ... 21283.html
Canada's proposed aviation safety regulations do not comply with science or international standards
TORONTO, Aug. 22, 2017 /CNW/ - Pilots are calling on Canadians to add their voice to the 7,000 who have signed a petition calling on Transport Canada to implement stronger pilot fatigue rules. Transport Canada's proposed updates to the 20-year-old Canadian Aviation Regulations still do not comply with established fatigue science, leaving Canadian pilots and their passengers falling behind comparable jurisdictions like the United States.
"Most Canadians don't realize how out of step Canada's aviation regulations are with what science recommends," says Milt Isaacs, CEO of the Air Canada Pilots Association. "Canada has an opportunity to ensure safer skies – but risks squandering it by disregarding sleep science and international standards. Canadian pilots are asking for help – on behalf of their passengers and crew – to ensure that Canada is a leader and not a laggard in aviation fatigue science."
Fatigue is a type of impairment and it affects all pilots. Unlike a tired driver, a pilot can't pull over to the side of the road. NASA research recommends a maximum flight time at night of 8.5 hours, as alertness, response time and cognitive performance is degraded. Fatigue is especially prevalent on long-haul over-night flights, but it can be mitigated with the right rules: adequate rest, sufficient recovery time after crossing time zones, and ensuring additional pilots are on board to take over the controls after that limit has been reached (augmentation).
"Nowhere else in the world can pilots fly as many hours in a day, week, and month with as little time off to recover as Canada, and even the updated regulations do not go far enough," said Captain Dan Adamus, President of the Air Line Pilots Association, Int'l (ALPA) Canada. "This may be the last chance in a very long time for Canadians to advocate for regulations that comply with science, align with international standards and strengthen protections for pilots and passengers. We encourage all Canadians who travel on planes of any size to sign the petition at saferskies.ca and keep Canada's skies safe and our aviation standards world-class."
Canada should learn from its neighbours in the United States and not wait for a tragedy to act. Following the 2009 Colgan Air crash in Buffalo, New York, the Federal Aviation Administration adopted regulations that go even further than NASA's recommendations. Today, these rules require pilot augmentation after just eight hours of flight time for departures after 8 pm.
Hear from Canada's pilots about the challenges of managing fatigue, getting proper rest, and why one level of safety for all is so important: https://saferskies.ca/pilot-stories.
To sign the petition, concerned Canadians can visit: https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Peti ... etition=e-
Canada's proposed aviation safety regulations do not comply with science or international standards
TORONTO, Aug. 22, 2017 /CNW/ - Pilots are calling on Canadians to add their voice to the 7,000 who have signed a petition calling on Transport Canada to implement stronger pilot fatigue rules. Transport Canada's proposed updates to the 20-year-old Canadian Aviation Regulations still do not comply with established fatigue science, leaving Canadian pilots and their passengers falling behind comparable jurisdictions like the United States.
"Most Canadians don't realize how out of step Canada's aviation regulations are with what science recommends," says Milt Isaacs, CEO of the Air Canada Pilots Association. "Canada has an opportunity to ensure safer skies – but risks squandering it by disregarding sleep science and international standards. Canadian pilots are asking for help – on behalf of their passengers and crew – to ensure that Canada is a leader and not a laggard in aviation fatigue science."
Fatigue is a type of impairment and it affects all pilots. Unlike a tired driver, a pilot can't pull over to the side of the road. NASA research recommends a maximum flight time at night of 8.5 hours, as alertness, response time and cognitive performance is degraded. Fatigue is especially prevalent on long-haul over-night flights, but it can be mitigated with the right rules: adequate rest, sufficient recovery time after crossing time zones, and ensuring additional pilots are on board to take over the controls after that limit has been reached (augmentation).
"Nowhere else in the world can pilots fly as many hours in a day, week, and month with as little time off to recover as Canada, and even the updated regulations do not go far enough," said Captain Dan Adamus, President of the Air Line Pilots Association, Int'l (ALPA) Canada. "This may be the last chance in a very long time for Canadians to advocate for regulations that comply with science, align with international standards and strengthen protections for pilots and passengers. We encourage all Canadians who travel on planes of any size to sign the petition at saferskies.ca and keep Canada's skies safe and our aviation standards world-class."
Canada should learn from its neighbours in the United States and not wait for a tragedy to act. Following the 2009 Colgan Air crash in Buffalo, New York, the Federal Aviation Administration adopted regulations that go even further than NASA's recommendations. Today, these rules require pilot augmentation after just eight hours of flight time for departures after 8 pm.
Hear from Canada's pilots about the challenges of managing fatigue, getting proper rest, and why one level of safety for all is so important: https://saferskies.ca/pilot-stories.
To sign the petition, concerned Canadians can visit: https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Peti ... etition=e-
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Re: Time Running Out to sign
So, elsewhere in the forum there's a thread on the NZ Dash 8 job that's up for offer - one of the highlights of which is '8 days off a month'. Someone posted that it's 8 days due to NZ's flight duty regulations.
I wonder if, as pilots, we are shooting our (comfortable?) lifestyles in the foot by backing these changes? after all, 10x8, 15x5.3, and 20x4 all = 80....
I wonder if, as pilots, we are shooting our (comfortable?) lifestyles in the foot by backing these changes? after all, 10x8, 15x5.3, and 20x4 all = 80....
Say, what's that mountain goat doing up here in the mist?
Happiness is V1 at Thompson!
Ass, Licence, Job. In that order.
Happiness is V1 at Thompson!
Ass, Licence, Job. In that order.
Re: Time Running Out to sign
And new zealand is advertising jobs in Canada, probably because there are no locals willing to take them. So the next change could be scheduling people for 80 work hours instead of credit hours, or even less.North Shore wrote:So, elsewhere in the forum there's a thread on the NZ Dash 8 job that's up for offer - one of the highlights of which is '8 days off a month'. Someone posted that it's 8 days due to NZ's flight duty regulations.
I wonder if, as pilots, we are shooting our (comfortable?) lifestyles in the foot by backing these changes? after all, 10x8, 15x5.3, and 20x4 all = 80....
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
Re: Time Running Out to sign
I'm a bit with North Shore on this one and there is an old saying that might possibly apply here -
"Be careful what you wish for, it just may come true."
"Be careful what you wish for, it just may come true."
Being stupid around airplanes is a capital offence and nature is a hanging judge!
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“It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.”
Mark Twain