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Delta gets in...
Risky or cleaver?
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Re: Risky or cleaver?
Can't it be both?
I'm going to knock this up a notch with my spice weasle. Bam!
Re: Risky or cleaver?
Playing with a cleaver is always risky - no doubt about that!
Being stupid around airplanes is a capital offence and nature is a hanging judge!
“It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.”
Mark Twain
“It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.”
Mark Twain
Re: Risky or cleaver?
I'd say very clever. Weather is one of those things where the more you know, the more you can do safely.
Re: Risky or cleaver?
An excellent display of skill and experience operating on the edge of what can be safely done.
I might also add that it was an excellent display of airmanship and pilot decision making on the part of those pilots who decided to turn back even though Delta made it in and out. No measuring contests here; kudos to all.
I might also add that it was an excellent display of airmanship and pilot decision making on the part of those pilots who decided to turn back even though Delta made it in and out. No measuring contests here; kudos to all.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you!
Re: Risky or cleaver?
As a consideration or "what if" aspect of this mission, realize that something as relatively benign as a blown tire on landing or any other delay, would become a life-threatening situation to the crew as well as risk a $85M+ aircraft.
Good job to the dispatchers and crew though, extreme situations are when teams shine and good people excel.
Good job to the dispatchers and crew though, extreme situations are when teams shine and good people excel.
Re: Risky or cleaver?
As a consideration or "what if" aspect of this mission, realize that something as relatively benign as a blown tire on landing or any other delay, would become a life-threatening situation to the crew as well as risk a $85M+ aircraft.
+1
+1
Re: Risky or cleaver?
Nope. Like this - https://aviation-safety.net/database/re ... 20140105-1
Pressing forward with a blind disregard for safety does not make you a good or professional pilot. If you get away with it, it makes you lucky, not skilled. "Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes" doesn't work well when there really ARE torpedoes!
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you!
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Eric Janson
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Re: Risky or cleaver?
The 2 biggest issues with this type of weather are wind limits and visibility in heavy rain.
I've flown in the edges of several Typhoons over the years - no different than flying in regular tropical weather conditions.
I've flown in the edges of several Typhoons over the years - no different than flying in regular tropical weather conditions.
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Re: Risky or cleaver?
I'm good with it. Seems to me that threading that needle was done with skill and did not unduly create risk.
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veni, vidi,...... vici non fecit.
veni, vidi,...... vici non fecit.
Re: Risky or cleaver?
Weather was actually well within limits during arrival and departure and they flew over the weather. METAR looked like a normal day in YYT. Nothing risky nor clever, all limitations were respected, pilots doing what they are paid to do...
Re: Risky or cleaver?
Same. Every storm is different, some more favourable to flight operations than others.Eric Janson wrote:The 2 biggest issues with this type of weather are wind limits and visibility in heavy rain.
I've flown in the edges of several Typhoons over the years - no different than flying in regular tropical weather conditions.
