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I wonder how they define a "drone". I have a couple of radio-controlled planes that I sometimes fly at the football or baseball field when there's no games going on. They are just balsa and tissue, but I bet they weigh a little more than 250 grams. I'm not about to go get a f##in' license or paint registration numbers on them. That's ridiculous. They're no more dangerous or invasive than flying a KITE ffs. They're balsa covered with tissue paper! They're as dangerous as a ball of dryer lint!
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I'm not about to go get a f##in' license or paint registration numbers on them.
You might wanna try joining the CFK "im not gonna get myself fingerprinted and get cleared of pedofilia" crowd LOL
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aeroncasuperchief wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:30 pm
I'm not about to go get a f##in' license or paint registration numbers on them.
You might wanna try joining the CFK "im not gonna get myself fingerprinted and get cleared of pedofilia" crowd LOL
...and YOU might wanna try cramming it with walnuts, you weirdo.
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i wish we could add memes here "That escalated Quickly"

anyway, I imagine the fine is listed in the 920 section of the new rules, Im guessing its like 5k fine and a year suspension of your pilots licence, all cause you didnt want to get a scale.out and weigh the thing. good luck with fighting the man there meatservo
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"You can't pilot a drone while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, or within 12 hours of consuming alcohol;"

12 hours? Isn't that more restrictive than being an actual pilot?
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Leftoftrack I never said I was going to "fight the man" I just said I wasn't going to do it. I'll have to stop flying my little models, because I live in a forested part of the country and other than the sports fields in town there isn't anywhere to go. That's why I've been building small, light and slow-flying models. If one of my planes hit you, I doubt it could even knock your hat off. But now, not small or light enough.

I'm sure anyone can understand how frustrating it is having a hobby that's been harmlessly enjoyed by many responsible people and has required no regulatory oversight whatsoever, including some really, really high-performance model aeroplanes and helicopters, and then they invent those "drone" things which can be purchased and flown by the average asshole with a smart-phone, and the whole peaceful, harmless hobby of radio-controlled aeroplanes gets swept up by what a nuisance the "drone" enthusiasts have become. Thanks a lot jerks.

It's easy not to give a shit when it's not your hobby and you don't know anything about it, but when quietly flying a diaphanous little tissue-paper model plane in circles at a ball diamond, below the height of the backstop, is something you can be fined for doing without a pilot's license, and kids under 14 won't be allowed to do at all, then things have gotten stupid. Especially when you can take the exact same plane, take the radio out and fly it in the same spot completely out of control, and this is not something you can be fined for- because "free flight" models don't count as "drones"
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Meatservo wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:37 am Leftoftrack I never said I was going to "fight the man" I just said I wasn't going to do it. I'll have to stop flying my little models, because I live in a forested part of the country and other than the sports fields in town there isn't anywhere to go. That's why I've been building small, light and slow-flying models. If one of my planes hit you, I doubt it could even knock your hat off. But now, not small or light enough.

I'm sure anyone can understand how frustrating it is having a hobby that's been harmlessly enjoyed by many responsible people and has required no regulatory oversight whatsoever, including some really, really high-performance model aeroplanes and helicopters, and then they invent those "drone" things which can be purchased and flown by the average asshole with a smart-phone, and the whole peaceful, harmless hobby of radio-controlled aeroplanes gets swept up by what a nuisance the "drone" enthusiasts have become. Thanks a lot jerks.

It's easy not to give a shit when it's not your hobby and you don't know anything about it, but when quietly flying a diaphanous little tissue-paper model plane in circles at a ball diamond, below the height of the backstop, is something you can be fined for doing without a pilot's license, and kids under 14 won't be allowed to do at all, then things have gotten stupid. Especially when you can take the exact same plane, take the radio out and fly it in the same spot completely out of control, and this is not something you can be fined for- because "free flight" models don't count as "drones"
I don’t disagree, food for thought;

https://www.maac.ca/en/
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Pretty sure you can get the "drone license" online pretty easily.
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I did not read the new proposed regs but CBC quotes 50 kg, now that's a honkin big drone and anything lighter will not require a drone license - but CBC has been wrong before :smt040
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I think we can all agree that the news typically oversimplifies and/or gets it flat out wrong, so why not go right to the source for info?
http://www.tc.gc.ca/en/services/aviatio ... aign=IP-EN

And the relevant Gazette:
http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2019/ ... 1-eng.html

Edited to add: I just read through the Gazette. It's fucking insane.
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Am I to understand that you now need a drone pilot license to fly radio controlled airplanes that weigh more than 250g?
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JohnnyHotRocks wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:08 am Am I to understand that you now need a drone pilot license to fly radio controlled airplanes that weigh more than 250g?
Not right this instant, but June 1st. Also, your RC airplane over 250g must be registered, with the appropriate fees paid up for both.
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Insane. The bureaucracy in this country just keeps getting worse
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The rules are being put in place to protect the public. Registration fee is $5. pilot certificate is online and printed same day. All model aircraft and drones from 250g to 25kg. Below 250g nothing is needed. over 25kg, an SFOC is needed.

Pretty easy and cheap, I'd say.
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Heliian wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:04 am Pretty easy and cheap, I'd say.
I'm not super thrilled about having to keep a journey log and tech records for each model. There's some other unnecessary fluff in there too, IMO. It would have been nice to see the weight exemption being a little higher (I think 1 kilogram would still be fair) and maybe even a total exemption from most of those rules when operating from a MAAC-sanctioned flying field.
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Insane. The bureaucracy in this country just keeps getting worse
It is the reward we get from voting in a socialist form of government.

Eventually it ends up looking like Venezuela does today.
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Yup after taking time to read the gazette it's pretty crazy - I know my drone flying will be in uncontrolled airspace and away in areas where there are no witnesses and no one to turn me in. Knee jerk reactions and stupid regulations -- arsholes jump on this and takes over 8 years to change FDT and they screw that up as well -- politics makes no sense. It's a joke.
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lownslow wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:10 am
Heliian wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:04 am Pretty easy and cheap, I'd say.
I'm not super thrilled about having to keep a journey log and tech records for each model. There's some other unnecessary fluff in there too, IMO. It would have been nice to see the weight exemption being a little higher (I think 1 kilogram would still be fair) and maybe even a total exemption from most of those rules when operating from a MAAC-sanctioned flying field.
It seems as though the plan is to have MAAC fields exempted from the CARs. A quick search for MAAC in CG2 finds this:

"While Part IX of the CARs applies to all RPAS, members of the Model Aeronautics Association of Canada (MAAC) operating at MAAC fields and MAAC sanctioned events will be issued an exemption to certain provisions of the CARs. Under the Act, footnote 8 the Minister has the authority to issue exemptions to the CARs; the exemption will be issued to MAAC before the end of the coming into force of the Regulations."
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JohnnyHotRocks wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:39 am Insane. The bureaucracy in this country just keeps getting worse
Bet you wont be saying that when a plane your mother or daughter is on gets frigged up from a birthday drone.

Just ban them outright. Its only half bald fat dudes that fly them.
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