Bombardier rips into the Globe and Mail
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Bombardier rips into the Globe and Mail
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Canadian Aerospace Industry Reaches New Heights, While the Globe and Mail Goes to New Low
Anyone up for some good news about a Canadian business? Bombardier just announced that its new business aircraft – the Global 7500 – set a record for the longest non-stop flight by a business jet – over 8,150 nautical miles.
Actually, that’s more than just good. It’s amazing. Our new aircraft has the longest range, the largest cabin and smoothest ride of any business jet ever made. Its reach can take it from Toronto, over the North Pole at nearly supersonic speed, and arrive in Hong Kong without refueling, carrying more passengers in an extra-spacious cabin that has no rival.
Here’s the best part. The plane was conceived, designed, manufactured, and first flown right here in Canada. It represents the best of Canadian engineering prowess and craftsmanship and is shining proof that Canadian companies can compete and win in global competition.
Our country can take great pride in this historic achievement and no one deserves the recognition more than the thousands of Canadian workers, from the test pilots to mechanics to engineers and electricians, whose determined effort made it possible. Yet, all too often that work and their stories go untold.
A recent poll showed that less than a quarter of the public even knew the Global 7500 aircraft exists. Fewer know about the leading role Bombardier plays in the adoption of sustainable alternative jet fuels, a part of our commitment to preserving the skies which we have the privilege of flying through. Or, that Bombardier has continued to invest billions of dollars in its business jets segment over the last five years, driving new products, Canadian patents and sustained employment.
If all this sounds remarkable, the real surprise is the narrow way our country’s news media has covered Canada’s business aviation industry. Think about it. How often do you hear about the billions of dollars business jet sales bring into the Canadian economy? Did you know that there are barely enough seats in the Rogers Centre (Skydome) to fit all the people whose livelihoods are linked to Canada’s business aviation industry?
A cynic might say it is because the media isn’t interested in good news stories or that they are so fixated on villainizing corporations and wealthy individuals who use business jets that they can’t bring themselves to say anything positive about the industry.
Worse yet is the dishonest attempt to discredit the women and men of Bombardier and paint our company as an organization that prowls the globe offering sweetheart deals to shadowy characters with disregard for the law and our reputation. This latest sorry example of cheap shot journalism was on full display in a recent Globe & Mail article.
In this article, Globe reporter Mark MacKinnon – who has been previously called out by Canada’s National News Media Council for failing to meet basic journalism standards in his reporting of our company – suggests that newly “leaked” records from a now defunct Lithuanian Bank show a “tie” between a Russian tax fraud scheme and a decade old business jet sale. MacKinnon further suggests that this apparent connection implies flaws in our due diligence process.
Putting aside the absurd standard of perfect hindsight, to which the Globe attempts to hold Bombardier, readers are deprived of critical information and context necessary to understand the full story. So, once again we must set the record straight on behalf of our employees.
Let’s start with the fact that Bombardier conducts a robust due diligence on potential buyers of every aircraft we sell. In some cases we move forward. In others we decline. Simply put, we do what we believe is right based on the information available at that time. It is a process that has served us well while delivering more than 1700 aircraft over the past decade, and one that we continue to refine as technology advances.
Others follow similar processes, and it should be noted that Bombardier was far from alone in conducting business with holding companies through the failed Lithuanian Bank. Others include major western banks, American Express, the World Economic Forum, a charity run by Prince Charles, and even the late pop star Prince and the Chelsea football team. The Globe singles out Bombardier, obviously, to make it seem as if we had some distinctive role when the truth is that these commercial transactions were widespread.
Readers should look at how more honest media outlets describe the transactions behind the “leaked” banking records. For example, The Guardian states that “There is no suggestion that end recipients of the funds were aware of the origin of the source money, which arrived via a disguised route. However, the [leaked] documents indicate that criminal and legitimate money may have been mixed together, making it impossible to trace the origin source, before passing through screen companies into the global banking system.”
Even the source that provided these records to the Globe’s reporter, an investigative outlet called OCCRP, cautions that “the very purpose of such systems is to obscure the ownership of money that goes through them” and warns that the material must be viewed in that light. But the Globe blew right through those caveats in its blind zeal to malign us.
The crucial point here is that even the best oversight systems and safeguards aren’t 100% fail-proof. That perspective is essential because when bad actors go to extreme lengths to conceal their misdeeds, the fault belongs with the bad actor, not the businesses that are misled. When banks or insurers advertise in the Globe, for example, is the paper at fault if one of those firms is later accused of wrongdoing?
This missing context is what makes the Globe’s pretend outrage so troubling.
At a time when the hardworking women and men at Bombardier Business Aircraft are achieving remarkable new heights, here’s hoping the press can start aiming a little higher too.
Mike Nadolski
Vice President Communications and Public Affairs
Bombardier
Canadian Aerospace Industry Reaches New Heights, While the Globe and Mail Goes to New Low
Anyone up for some good news about a Canadian business? Bombardier just announced that its new business aircraft – the Global 7500 – set a record for the longest non-stop flight by a business jet – over 8,150 nautical miles.
Actually, that’s more than just good. It’s amazing. Our new aircraft has the longest range, the largest cabin and smoothest ride of any business jet ever made. Its reach can take it from Toronto, over the North Pole at nearly supersonic speed, and arrive in Hong Kong without refueling, carrying more passengers in an extra-spacious cabin that has no rival.
Here’s the best part. The plane was conceived, designed, manufactured, and first flown right here in Canada. It represents the best of Canadian engineering prowess and craftsmanship and is shining proof that Canadian companies can compete and win in global competition.
Our country can take great pride in this historic achievement and no one deserves the recognition more than the thousands of Canadian workers, from the test pilots to mechanics to engineers and electricians, whose determined effort made it possible. Yet, all too often that work and their stories go untold.
A recent poll showed that less than a quarter of the public even knew the Global 7500 aircraft exists. Fewer know about the leading role Bombardier plays in the adoption of sustainable alternative jet fuels, a part of our commitment to preserving the skies which we have the privilege of flying through. Or, that Bombardier has continued to invest billions of dollars in its business jets segment over the last five years, driving new products, Canadian patents and sustained employment.
If all this sounds remarkable, the real surprise is the narrow way our country’s news media has covered Canada’s business aviation industry. Think about it. How often do you hear about the billions of dollars business jet sales bring into the Canadian economy? Did you know that there are barely enough seats in the Rogers Centre (Skydome) to fit all the people whose livelihoods are linked to Canada’s business aviation industry?
A cynic might say it is because the media isn’t interested in good news stories or that they are so fixated on villainizing corporations and wealthy individuals who use business jets that they can’t bring themselves to say anything positive about the industry.
Worse yet is the dishonest attempt to discredit the women and men of Bombardier and paint our company as an organization that prowls the globe offering sweetheart deals to shadowy characters with disregard for the law and our reputation. This latest sorry example of cheap shot journalism was on full display in a recent Globe & Mail article.
In this article, Globe reporter Mark MacKinnon – who has been previously called out by Canada’s National News Media Council for failing to meet basic journalism standards in his reporting of our company – suggests that newly “leaked” records from a now defunct Lithuanian Bank show a “tie” between a Russian tax fraud scheme and a decade old business jet sale. MacKinnon further suggests that this apparent connection implies flaws in our due diligence process.
Putting aside the absurd standard of perfect hindsight, to which the Globe attempts to hold Bombardier, readers are deprived of critical information and context necessary to understand the full story. So, once again we must set the record straight on behalf of our employees.
Let’s start with the fact that Bombardier conducts a robust due diligence on potential buyers of every aircraft we sell. In some cases we move forward. In others we decline. Simply put, we do what we believe is right based on the information available at that time. It is a process that has served us well while delivering more than 1700 aircraft over the past decade, and one that we continue to refine as technology advances.
Others follow similar processes, and it should be noted that Bombardier was far from alone in conducting business with holding companies through the failed Lithuanian Bank. Others include major western banks, American Express, the World Economic Forum, a charity run by Prince Charles, and even the late pop star Prince and the Chelsea football team. The Globe singles out Bombardier, obviously, to make it seem as if we had some distinctive role when the truth is that these commercial transactions were widespread.
Readers should look at how more honest media outlets describe the transactions behind the “leaked” banking records. For example, The Guardian states that “There is no suggestion that end recipients of the funds were aware of the origin of the source money, which arrived via a disguised route. However, the [leaked] documents indicate that criminal and legitimate money may have been mixed together, making it impossible to trace the origin source, before passing through screen companies into the global banking system.”
Even the source that provided these records to the Globe’s reporter, an investigative outlet called OCCRP, cautions that “the very purpose of such systems is to obscure the ownership of money that goes through them” and warns that the material must be viewed in that light. But the Globe blew right through those caveats in its blind zeal to malign us.
The crucial point here is that even the best oversight systems and safeguards aren’t 100% fail-proof. That perspective is essential because when bad actors go to extreme lengths to conceal their misdeeds, the fault belongs with the bad actor, not the businesses that are misled. When banks or insurers advertise in the Globe, for example, is the paper at fault if one of those firms is later accused of wrongdoing?
This missing context is what makes the Globe’s pretend outrage so troubling.
At a time when the hardworking women and men at Bombardier Business Aircraft are achieving remarkable new heights, here’s hoping the press can start aiming a little higher too.
Mike Nadolski
Vice President Communications and Public Affairs
Bombardier
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Slow clap.
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I'm buying the whole bar a round.
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This statement annoys me.
Is the Global 7500 really a larger cabin than the ACJ380 (or any of the wide-body Airbus Corporate Jets or Boeing Business Jets?).
Boeing and Airbus models both have ranges up to 11,000 nm according to Google...which is farther than I have seen stated yet for the Global 7500.
A qualifier in the statement such as 'of any purpose-designed business jet' would be nice, but as written it sounds like a lie.
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I kinda think it was qualified when they said business jet. the BBJs and Airbus corporate jets are designed as airliners, but modified as "biz-liners". The A380 wasn't designed to be a business jet, that's a modification.
I"m sure somebody could modify the Global 7500 to be an airliner, probably call it a CRJ400 or something.
I"m sure somebody could modify the Global 7500 to be an airliner, probably call it a CRJ400 or something.
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It’s a small boast if it’s anything. Why be such a pedant?TailwheelPilot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:55 pmThis statement annoys me.
Is the Global 7500 really a larger cabin than the ACJ380 (or any of the wide-body Airbus Corporate Jets or Boeing Business Jets?).
Boeing and Airbus models both have ranges up to 11,000 nm according to Google...which is farther than I have seen stated yet for the Global 7500.
A qualifier in the statement such as 'of any purpose-designed business jet' would be nice, but as written it sounds like a lie.
Why the hell can’t Canadians actually be proud of something?
I’m not one for unbridled nationalism, but, and an airplane may not be the thing for it, why can’t we have something unifying? It’s always central Canada vs west vs Quebec. We need something tangible we can all be proud of.
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Sorry, I like precision. I know it annoys some people, but it can and does make a difference at times.
Anyone claiming they have the biggest, smallest, or best of anything should ensure that their claims are accurate and narrow enough in scope to be accurate. See Gulfstream, for example, referencing the G650 as having "(a)n 8 foot 6 inch/2.59 meter-wide cabin, the largest in its class" (which is 3 cm higher and 5 cm wider than the Global 7500). Not an imprecise 'largest cabin' and not pretending it is the widest/highest cabin of any business jet ever built, just in it's class which quite obviously excludes bizliners.
If the airframe was ordered as an airliner and later converted to a business jet I would agree, however if the airframe was ordered as a BBJ or ACJ I would argue the specific airframe was made as a business jet, not converted to one. Bombardier said 'ever made' not 'ever designed'.
The Global 7500 does sound like it has some nice features over the G650 like a separate bedroom and stand-up shower - both of which would be very nice for overnight and/or long haul flights, let alone ultra-long haul.
Anyone claiming they have the biggest, smallest, or best of anything should ensure that their claims are accurate and narrow enough in scope to be accurate. See Gulfstream, for example, referencing the G650 as having "(a)n 8 foot 6 inch/2.59 meter-wide cabin, the largest in its class" (which is 3 cm higher and 5 cm wider than the Global 7500). Not an imprecise 'largest cabin' and not pretending it is the widest/highest cabin of any business jet ever built, just in it's class which quite obviously excludes bizliners.
If the airframe was ordered as an airliner and later converted to a business jet I would agree, however if the airframe was ordered as a BBJ or ACJ I would argue the specific airframe was made as a business jet, not converted to one. Bombardier said 'ever made' not 'ever designed'.
The Global 7500 does sound like it has some nice features over the G650 like a separate bedroom and stand-up shower - both of which would be very nice for overnight and/or long haul flights, let alone ultra-long haul.
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I said designed as a business jet. The BBJs and ACJs were never DESIGNED as personal transportation. The aircraft are designed to carry hundreds of people thousands of miles, it is far from optimized for the business jet role, with 1-30 people on board. Dedicated jets like the Globals are.
I don't think you're asking for precision anymore, you're looking for fault and picking apart semantics. You're worse than a lawyer.
I don't think you're asking for precision anymore, you're looking for fault and picking apart semantics. You're worse than a lawyer.
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Couldn't agree more.gwagen wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:36 pmIt’s a small boast if it’s anything. Why be such a pedant?TailwheelPilot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:55 pmThis statement annoys me.
Is the Global 7500 really a larger cabin than the ACJ380 (or any of the wide-body Airbus Corporate Jets or Boeing Business Jets?).
Boeing and Airbus models both have ranges up to 11,000 nm according to Google...which is farther than I have seen stated yet for the Global 7500.
A qualifier in the statement such as 'of any purpose-designed business jet' would be nice, but as written it sounds like a lie.
Why the hell can’t Canadians actually be proud of something?
I’m not one for unbridled nationalism, but, and an airplane may not be the thing for it, why can’t we have something unifying? It’s always central Canada vs west vs Quebec. We need something tangible we can all be proud of.
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Good thoughts, though.....
Our political leaders need to lead by example in this area, and when they don't, it degrades the unity you seek.
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TailwheelPilot wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:18 am Sorry, I like precision. I know it annoys some people, but it can and does make a difference at times.
Anyone claiming they have the biggest, smallest, or best of anything should ensure that their claims are accurate and narrow enough in scope to be accurate. See Gulfstream, for example, referencing the G650 as having "(a)n 8 foot 6 inch/2.59 meter-wide cabin, the largest in its class" (which is 3 cm higher and 5 cm wider than the Global 7500). Not an imprecise 'largest cabin' and not pretending it is the widest/highest cabin of any business jet ever built, just in it's class which quite obviously excludes bizliners.
If the airframe was ordered as an airliner and later converted to a business jet I would agree, however if the airframe was ordered as a BBJ or ACJ I would argue the specific airframe was made as a business jet, not converted to one. Bombardier said 'ever made' not 'ever designed'.
The Global 7500 does sound like it has some nice features over the G650 like a separate bedroom and stand-up shower - both of which would be very nice for overnight and/or long haul flights, let alone ultra-long haul.
LOL... You are nit picking at best.
As for the Boeing and Airbus business jets (B737 and AB319), they were designed as airliners first, not business jets and as such aside from extra room because of their size don't really offer the flexibility of a Global, a Gulfstream or a Falcon.
The 737 based corporate aircraft and the Airbus version do not have the range of a Global/Gulfstream without having to add lots of extra fuel tanks (option) which then reduces the amounts of passengers they can carry. They are slow (M.77/.78), and fly at low altitudes (below FL410), often in the winds and turbulence in the mid 30s, compared to the real business jets which can climb directly to FL410. Their pressurization systems are no match to a business jets' systems which offer a much higher differential (3600' foot cabin at FL410, 4500' cabin at FL450) which on long flights makes a huge difference.
Try landing any 737 or 319 at very limited airports with minimal taxi space, ramp space or better yet short runways... Good luck!
If you think deicing/anti-icing a Global type aircraft is expensive, then I would not want to see the invoice for a 737 or 319.
Try finding a hangar for a 737 or 319 type aircraft at any airport, good luck! It's already hard enough for a Global type aircraft.
So unless you require the extra room/passenger capacity albeit with less range and speed or choice of airfields you want to operate in and out of, a 737 type or Airbus 319 converted to a business offers no advantage what so ever!
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here we go again...
Bombardier bashing.
Nothing more.
Nothing less.
Thanks Mike for putting into simple english the accomplishments of the 7500. An incredible and fantastic purpose built business jet. Companies like Vistajet, Netjets, and people like Nikki Lauda didn't take long to recognize its value to business aviation and its mission capabilities.
(Mike Nadolski, Vice President Communications and Public Affairs at Bombardier, that is.)
Bombardier bashing.
Nothing more.
Nothing less.
Thanks Mike for putting into simple english the accomplishments of the 7500. An incredible and fantastic purpose built business jet. Companies like Vistajet, Netjets, and people like Nikki Lauda didn't take long to recognize its value to business aviation and its mission capabilities.
(Mike Nadolski, Vice President Communications and Public Affairs at Bombardier, that is.)
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Gino Under wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:26 pm here we go again...
Bombardier bashing.
Nothing more.
Nothing less.
Bingo!
I can't understand why, we Canadians are always ready to shoot down one of ours instead of praising it when they do come up with a fantastic product.
I'm still irate at the POS work W5 did on the Challenger in the 80s, another aircraft ahead of its times... Those idiot reporters went to Gulfstream to get their opinions on the Challenger and of course we all know how that turned out.
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It's one thing to create a fantastic product, quite another to manage well and make a successful, profitable business out of it.
Tesla is a poster child for this disparity
Tesla is a poster child for this disparity
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I must have missed something, not aware of any product quality bashing. Sure is a nice high end product, destined for sale to an exclusive niche market.
Is it possible that some are annoyed at the backroom taxpayer financed element of the equation?
Is it possible that some are annoyed at the backroom taxpayer financed element of the equation?
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Some animals are more equal than others, comradeconfusedalot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:37 am I must have missed something, not aware of any product quality bashing. Sure is a nice high end product, destined for sale to an exclusive niche market.
Is it possible that some are annoyed at the backroom taxpayer financed element of the equation?
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Yeah the same way we the people financed a poorly runned national airline for more than 50 years.
Besides although both levels of government may have loaned money for the C Series, which I assume is already paid back or will be in the futur, I don’t recall the government gave away money for free to Bombardier for the Global 7500 project.
Besides although both levels of government may have loaned money for the C Series, which I assume is already paid back or will be in the futur, I don’t recall the government gave away money for free to Bombardier for the Global 7500 project.
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https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/morneau-say ... sc=suKM7uZ
Details in the summer.
Who wants to bet Quebec companies will be exempted?
This was a joke....sort of. Nothing would shock me.
Details in the summer.
Who wants to bet Quebec companies will be exempted?
This was a joke....sort of. Nothing would shock me.
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I'll take the other side of that bet - that might be a bit on the nose even for a government as obviously biased as this one.rookiepilot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:44 am https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/morneau-say ... sc=suKM7uZ
Details in the summer.
Who wants to bet Quebec companies will be exempted?