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Re registering grass strip.

Post by Toblersteve » Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:19 pm

Hello all. My names Steve and am new to this forum. I have been using grass strip , was registererd in the past. New Liskeard , Ontario. CPX3. In the process of buying this property and possibly register it again. Was hoping someone might have older CFS. Or PDF of this cfs page. I had it on ForeFlight. Then When owners closed it, it was removed from cfs. Any tips /tricks to register and/ or cfs page would be helpful and a jumpstart on registry. Thanks.
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by AirFrame » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:45 am

How far back was it an active airport in the CFS?
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by Namttej » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:00 am

Just took a look in a CFS I had laying around from 2014 and it wasn’t there so it must’ve been a while ago
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by digits_ » Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:19 am

No big deal to register. Contact your local tc office. They will send you forms and ask for pictures. Fill them out. After about 5 months they will forward the info to navcanada. Another 6-9 months for publication. Then you wait for the next cycle for it to be published on cfs and vnc.

That is how it went for me, in a rural area. I assume if you want to do this around for example toronto city it will be harder.

Note this is registration only. Not certification.
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by Toblersteve » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:26 am

I started my ppl end of 2012, pretty sure it was in then. What’s the difference in registering and certified airstrip?
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by photofly » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:59 am

If it's "certified" then it becomes an airport, and you can fly scheduled air services from there. FIgure on $100,000 of upgrades and paperwork, and a couple of years of work.
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by linecrew » Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:59 am

CPX3 was pulled from the CFS in 2009.
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Post by AirFrame » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:51 am

Drat. Oldest I have is 2016, although I have a BC-only from 2003.
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by Bede » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:28 am

The rules surrounding aerodrome registration have changed significantly over the last few years.

Due to pressure from municipalities, it is now necessary to do public consultations and environmental assessment prior to registration, depending on the location.

http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2016/ ... 1-eng.html
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by digits_ » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:44 am

Bede wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:28 am
The rules surrounding aerodrome registration have changed significantly over the last few years.

Due to pressure from municipalities, it is now necessary to do public consultations and environmental assessment prior to registration, depending on the location.

http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2016/ ... 1-eng.html
I was under the impression the rules for consultation etc apply only if you have to perform work to build your aerodrome. The OP already has an aerodrome and is only looking to register an existing aerodrome. I do not think the new rules apply in this situation.
aerodrome work means work, other than work necessary to comply with a new requirement imposed by or under the Act, carried out for any of the following purposes:

(a) building a new aerodrome; or
(b) at an existing aerodrome,
(i) building a new runway for aeroplanes, or
(ii) increasing the length of an existing runway for aeroplanes by 100 m or by 10%, whichever is greater. (travaux d’aérodrome)
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by photofly » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:07 am

Bede wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:28 am
The rules surrounding aerodrome registration have changed significantly over the last few years.

Due to pressure from municipalities, it is now necessary to do public consultations and environmental assessment prior to registration, depending on the location.

http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p2/2016/ ... 1-eng.html
Where does it say anything about environmental assessment?
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by Bede » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:56 pm

Sorry, I'm to lazy to find the reference. It was being proposed when I registered mine. I got my registration in just before the rules came into force.

Of course I could be imagining things....
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by Beefitarian » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:34 am

I'm imagining owning an airstrip. Seems nice in my head. It might as well be on a nice island while I'm at it.
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by C-GKNT » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:07 am

Beefitarian wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:34 am
I'm imagining owning an airstrip. Seems nice in my head. It might as well be on a nice island while I'm at it.
Everyone I know who has their own strip spends more time cutting grass and plowing snow than flying :cry:

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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by photofly » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:13 am

How difficult/expensive to maintain is a gravel strip?
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by digits_ » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:33 am

photofly wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:13 am
How difficult/expensive to maintain is a gravel strip?
You need a snowblower for winterops and a grader for summer ops if it sees regular use. In spring you can see holes and bumps.

But for the cost of all the gravel and installation, you are probably better off getting a grass strip and pay a guy for cutting and blowing. Or go really nuts and go for asphalt or concrete.
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by JasonE » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:47 pm

If you use gravel, might as well add budget for new props too!
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by Bede » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:49 pm

C-GKNT wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:07 am
Beefitarian wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:34 am
I'm imagining owning an airstrip. Seems nice in my head. It might as well be on a nice island while I'm at it.
Everyone I know who has their own strip spends more time cutting grass and plowing snow than flying :cry:

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Lol. so true!
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by digits_ » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:22 pm

Bede wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:49 pm
C-GKNT wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:07 am
Beefitarian wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:34 am
I'm imagining owning an airstrip. Seems nice in my head. It might as well be on a nice island while I'm at it.
Everyone I know who has their own strip spends more time cutting grass and plowing snow than flying :cry:

Glenn
Lol. so true!
But isn't that the whole point? Enjoying your runway while you are mowing it or snowblowing it? It sure is cheaper than flying your plane :mrgreen:
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by Oldguystrtn2fly » Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:04 pm

Everyone I know without their own strip spend far more time driving to and from the airport than I spend snow blowing or cutting....
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by C-GKNT » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:48 pm

Oldguystrtn2fly wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:04 pm
Everyone I know without their own strip spend far more time driving to and from the airport than I spend snow blowing or cutting....
I probably spend less time clearing snow off my home heli-pad than you do off your strip...and its paved so no grass 8)

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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by Oldguystrtn2fly » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:57 pm

I also spent less on my strip than you did on your helipad🤓
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by Beefitarian » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:35 pm

Obviously in my fantasy I can afford staff to mow the lawn on my strip.
How's it going C-GKNT? I hope you and the family are doing well.
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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by C-GKNT » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:03 pm

Beefitarian wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:35 pm
Obviously in my fantasy I can afford staff to mow the lawn on my strip.
How's it going C-GKNT? I hope you and the family are doing well.
Hello Beef,

Doing OK. Still organizing a COPA kids rally each spring/fall and participating in 4-5 others when they fit into my schedule :D

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Re: Re registering grass strip.

Post by Beefitarian » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:06 am

Good to see.
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