But you can book sick at Air CanadaAir Canada’s reserve rules are worse than a lot of 703! But the grass is always greener....
Minimum rest in the 703 world
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Black air has no lift - extra fuel has no weight
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Booking off sick worked great for the crew of AC 759...
Canada should be embarrassed by our duty rules, even the new ones.
Canada should be embarrassed by our duty rules, even the new ones.
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More likely to see a pilot book off because of smog in Beijing or Dehli, civil unrest in HK or Santiago over being tired. Especially when that phone call comes offering draft on a 25 credit trip.goingnowherefast wrote: ↑Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:26 pm Booking off sick worked great for the crew of AC 759...
Canada should be embarrassed by our duty rules, even the new ones.
We are our own worst enemy.
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Let's face it the bush mentality and culture is still part of Canadian aviation and part of industry heritage. Too much lobbying allowed and a group of law makers who have no backbone. Canadian pilots don't get tired and can work for days without rest. We are simply gods.
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This is interesting to me, and I would love to see something in the CARs where it specifies this requirement in clear terms -- otherwise it's just arbitrary and subject to the whims of any local TC auditor or enforcement personnel.A past employer received an audit finding from TC which said the COM violated the reserve regulations because it did not address how the company would switch between the options A, B and C. They were forced to advise every reserve crew member which option they were assigned to for the monthly roster period. In other words, they couldn’t just switch it on a whim.
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The operator in question is no longer around, but at the time, they asked for a regulatory interpretation. The response said that the intent of the regulation was clear, in that it states:
The word "one" was the key.An air operator shall provide each flight crew member with an opportunity to obtain at least 8 consecutive hours sleep in any 24 consecutive hours while on reserve by one of the following methods:
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https://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/securitas
Unsafe procedures and practices:
Crew scheduling problems: inadequate crew composition, unqualified crew, inadequate crew rest
Unsafe procedures and practices:
Crew scheduling problems: inadequate crew composition, unqualified crew, inadequate crew rest
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What happens with messages received like that? Is it all handled by the TSB, or do TC inspectors get involved as well?Altimeter wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:53 pm https://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/securitas
Unsafe procedures and practices:
Crew scheduling problems: inadequate crew composition, unqualified crew, inadequate crew rest
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
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Well you could call the phone number and ask but it most likely is a clerical position that checks the mailbox then depending on the department the email is forwarded to the TSB inspector for review and followup. He would need a contact name to look into the details and then they would contact the region where the operator has its main base. From there they would try to talk to the POI of the company and ask some questions.