Who's gotten a lay off?

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Who's gotten a lay off?

Post by TeePeeCreeper »

Hi all,

As we all know COVID-19 has been difficult on the airline industry to say the least and who knows how much worse it might get.

I fly for a small corporate flight department where none of us are worried about lay off notices. (So far as we see it)

I am curious if anyone in the corporate flying biz or anyone flying for the majors have actually gotten a lay off notice yet?

Hopefully the aviation industry will bounce back quickly from this!

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Re: Who's gotten a lay off?

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No one.
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I only have personal knowledge for Kenmore Air Service in Seattle. They start lay-offs Monday both in flight and maintenance. I have it from a well-placed source that at Harbor Air loads are down about 40%. Safe to assume many lay-offs are imminent across the industry not to mention support services.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vEEh0GF_C8




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My roster has been changed to all standbys until the end of the month.

Was supposed to be a line check flight and re-current groundschool.

We've been offered unpaid leave and job sharing (50%) on a voluntary basis. I expect that to change.
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Westjet on a hiring freeze apparently.
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golden hawk wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:24 am
Westjet on a hiring freeze apparently.
With an announcement of aircraft grounding and subsequent staff layoffs coming early next week.
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TeePeeCreeper wrote:
Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:26 pm

I fly for a small corporate flight department where none of us are worried about lay off notices.
Bold statement TPC. That’s exactly what the Suncor Flight Department pilots were saying right up until the day they got their lay off notices.

Nobody is immune in this global downturn.

Here’s hoping for reduced blocks over lay off notices...
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Loads are nasty all over YUL. Everyone is suffering. Companies won't burn through cash just to keep unusable employees around when the border closes.

Expect 2-3 months of layoffs for 75% of airline employees in the coming weeks. Hope you have your emergency savings account ready...
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Yep. Lay off. Corporate guy. Alberta....
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I wouldn't worry, DerateNO said no one has gotten a lay off notice.

It is going to get ugly. First rodeo for more than a few.
Hopefully everyone is prepared for it.
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I garantee you there will be layoffs in every major airlines in the next month, wanna bet?
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Welcome to the new combination of y2k, 911, SARS and the 2008 market crash all rolled into one. This is gonna hurt!
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trey kule wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:58 pm
I wouldn't worry, DerateNO said no one has gotten a lay off notice.

It is going to get ugly. First rodeo for more than a few.
Hopefully everyone is prepared for it.
Sorry have you heard otherwise?

The question was if anyone has gotten notice and as of right now from everything I've heard no one has.

Unless you know otherwise?
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JohnnyHotRocks wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:28 pm
Welcome to the new combination of y2k, 911, SARS and the 2008 market crash all rolled into one. This is gonna hurt!
Ha, I remember Y2K!, yeah because the "computer" in your '99 Toyota knew what year it was and wasn't going to start on new years day. On another note I haven't heard much about global warming lately.
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Yep.... lay off......corporate sector.....Alberta
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Just listened to the Flexjet CEO message to employees in the US.
It seems that they are new extremely busy and expect to be for a few weeks with everyone trying to get to where they want to hunker down. He said after that when the reality of stock market sets in and general economic slowdown he expects to slow down as well.
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Who's gonna be 1st?
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Flair
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derateNO wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:21 pm
Flair
And you're basing that on? Facts? Or are you seriously the kind of person that's hoping that those employees lose their lively hood?
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It’s not a contest guys. All companies are going to lay off. AC just announced they are cancelling 50% of their flights. Going to be a tough few months for a lot of us.
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derateNO wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:21 pm
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Actually, this award has to go to Air Canada. If one wants to get technical, folks aren't actually hired yet, but the course for next week has been cancelled. So there's a group of boys and girls that got the offer from Air Canada, quit jobs, some may have rooted up a family and moved, only to find out now the job has vanished.

for all intents purposes, this is the first layoffs in Canada, even if it's technically not a layoff because start date wasn't scheduled for a couple more days.
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goldeneagle wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:24 pm
for all intensive purposes, this is the first layoffs in Canada, even if it's technically not a layoff because start date wasn't scheduled for a couple more days.
intents and purposes
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yycinformer wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:48 pm

intents and purposes
Stupid auto correct doesn't always do what we want. Post fixed...
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Most of the new crop at Air Canada were probably in elementary school when the BOTL guys were given extended vacations in the early 2000s.

For corporations, the first juicy thing to axe to free up capital or cash flow is a flight department—especially with fractionals and charters and e-conferences.

In a recession, people aren’t buying things so less need for cargo.

Even a cushy government job is dependent on tax revenues. They can’t just keep printing money forever.

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GRK2 wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:31 pm
derateNO wrote:
Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:21 pm
Flair
And you're basing that on? Facts? Or are you seriously the kind of person that's hoping that those employees lose their lively hood?
What the @#$! is wrong with this forum and people magically reading words that were never typed?

FFS.
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