Who's gotten a lay off?

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Re: Who's gotten a lay off?

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derateNO wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:21 pmFlair
Actually, this award has to go to Air Canada. If one wants to get technical, folks aren't actually hired yet, but the course for next week has been cancelled. So there's a group of boys and girls that got the offer from Air Canada, quit jobs, some may have rooted up a family and moved, only to find out now the job has vanished.

for all intents purposes, this is the first layoffs in Canada, even if it's technically not a layoff because start date wasn't scheduled for a couple more days.
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goldeneagle wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:24 pm for all intensive purposes, this is the first layoffs in Canada, even if it's technically not a layoff because start date wasn't scheduled for a couple more days.
intents and purposes
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yycinformer wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:48 pm
intents and purposes
Stupid auto correct doesn't always do what we want. Post fixed...
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Most of the new crop at Air Canada were probably in elementary school when the BOTL guys were given extended vacations in the early 2000s.

For corporations, the first juicy thing to axe to free up capital or cash flow is a flight department—especially with fractionals and charters and e-conferences.

In a recession, people aren’t buying things so less need for cargo.

Even a cushy government job is dependent on tax revenues. They can’t just keep printing money forever.

Nobody is safe.
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Geez did I say that....? Or just think it....?
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GRK2 wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:31 pm
derateNO wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:21 pmFlair
And you're basing that on? Facts? Or are you seriously the kind of person that's hoping that those employees lose their lively hood?
What the @#$! is wrong with this forum and people magically reading words that were never typed?

FFS.
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iflyforpie wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:02 pm
Even a cushy government job is dependent on tax revenues. They can’t just keep printing money forever.
Believe that when I see it. Google how many Govt employees in your province pull in more than 100k / year. Sunshine list. And they always want more, more, more.

The restructuring that will have to happen one day will shock everyone.
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goldeneagle wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:24 pm
derateNO wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:21 pmFlair
Actually, this award has to go to Air Canada. If one wants to get technical, folks aren't actually hired yet, but the course for next week has been cancelled. So there's a group of boys and girls that got the offer from Air Canada, quit jobs, some may have rooted up a family and moved, only to find out now the job has vanished.

for all intents purposes, this is the first layoffs in Canada, even if it's technically not a layoff because start date wasn't scheduled for a couple more days.
Encore cancelled a class that was supposed to start tomorrow. People were already moved to Calgary when they got the news on Saturday.
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Sunwing has announced layoffs of all pilots and cabin crew. Effective immediately, only rescue flights will operate southbound until March 23rd, at which time all flight operations will cease.

I wouldn't doubt if AC and WJA aren't far behind.

Take care out there!!
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Is the executive suite deferring all pay? All bonuses?

Highly doubt it.
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The first has fallen (Sunwing).

"Regrettably at this time the Company has announced it is laying off the entire pilot group starting April 8th. Your Union will meet with the Company tomorrow morning to discuss mitigation strategies for the members. While we go through this difficult time we will ensure the Collective Agreement is followed, as such we have been given 3 weeks notice and expect vacation to be paid out accordingly. The airline intends to begin normal operations into a summer program once the effects of the pandemic allow air travel to return to normal. We understand this is causing uncertainty for our FCM’s and their families, more support from UNIFOR will follow. Please stay safe, look after each other and communicate with your Base Reps as your first point of contact."
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Cessna 180 wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:02 pm The first has fallen (Sunwing).

"Regrettably at this time the Company has announced it is laying off the entire pilot group starting April 8th. Your Union will meet with the Company tomorrow morning to discuss mitigation strategies for the members. While we go through this difficult time we will ensure the Collective Agreement is followed, as such we have been given 3 weeks notice and expect vacation to be paid out accordingly. The airline intends to begin normal operations into a summer program once the effects of the pandemic allow air travel to return to normal. We understand this is causing uncertainty for our FCM’s and their families, more support from UNIFOR will follow. Please stay safe, look after each other and communicate with your Base Reps as your first point of contact."
Back to normal by summer is VERY optimistic...
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Any word on Flair?
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privateer wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:06 pm Any word on Flair?
They were able to shake off the title of "First to lay off all pilots"... doesn't say much though.

May all of you and all of them have a quick and easy return to work :)
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Is the executive suite deferring all pay? All bonuses?
Actually - yes.

They have all taken large paycuts.
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Cessna 180 wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:02 pm The first has fallen (Sunwing).

"Regrettably at this time the Company has announced it is laying off the entire pilot group starting April 8th. Your Union will meet with the Company tomorrow morning to discuss mitigation strategies for the members. While we go through this difficult time we will ensure the Collective Agreement is followed, as such we have been given 3 weeks notice and expect vacation to be paid out accordingly. The airline intends to begin normal operations into a summer program once the effects of the pandemic allow air travel to return to normal. We understand this is causing uncertainty for our FCM’s and their families, more support from UNIFOR will follow. Please stay safe, look after each other and communicate with your Base Reps as your first point of contact."
Holy fuuuuuck. That is one hell of a way to take the first spot. Laying off *all* pilots -without going bankrupt-, has that ever happened?
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digits_ wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:38 pm
Cessna 180 wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:02 pm The first has fallen (Sunwing).

"Regrettably at this time the Company has announced it is laying off the entire pilot group starting April 8th. Your Union will meet with the Company tomorrow morning to discuss mitigation strategies for the members. While we go through this difficult time we will ensure the Collective Agreement is followed, as such we have been given 3 weeks notice and expect vacation to be paid out accordingly. The airline intends to begin normal operations into a summer program once the effects of the pandemic allow air travel to return to normal. We understand this is causing uncertainty for our FCM’s and their families, more support from UNIFOR will follow. Please stay safe, look after each other and communicate with your Base Reps as your first point of contact."
Holy fuuuuuck. That is one hell of a way to take the first spot. Laying off *all* pilots -without going bankrupt-, has that ever happened?
WestJet is about to announce a massive cut to flying in the next few hours. We all know what that leads to.
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notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:56 pm
digits_ wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:38 pm
Cessna 180 wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:02 pm The first has fallen (Sunwing).

"Regrettably at this time the Company has announced it is laying off the entire pilot group starting April 8th. Your Union will meet with the Company tomorrow morning to discuss mitigation strategies for the members. While we go through this difficult time we will ensure the Collective Agreement is followed, as such we have been given 3 weeks notice and expect vacation to be paid out accordingly. The airline intends to begin normal operations into a summer program once the effects of the pandemic allow air travel to return to normal. We understand this is causing uncertainty for our FCM’s and their families, more support from UNIFOR will follow. Please stay safe, look after each other and communicate with your Base Reps as your first point of contact."
Holy fuuuuuck. That is one hell of a way to take the first spot. Laying off *all* pilots -without going bankrupt-, has that ever happened?
WestJet is about to announce a massive cut to flying in the next few hours. We all know what that leads to.
Saw on Facebook they're stopping all transborder and international flights starting Sunday
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goleafsgo wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:06 pm
notwhoyouthinkIam wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:56 pm
digits_ wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:38 pm

Holy fuuuuuck. That is one hell of a way to take the first spot. Laying off *all* pilots -without going bankrupt-, has that ever happened?
WestJet is about to announce a massive cut to flying in the next few hours. We all know what that leads to.
Saw on Facebook they're stopping all transborder and international flights starting Sunday
And cutting 50% of domestic flying.
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We’re all f@#ked really
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People say that this crisis is temporary and that once things pick up, it will be better than before or at least back to normal. This is simply not true. It will take a very long time for the economy to wake up once the virus stops spreading.
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