Companies Laying off.

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PAL has a hiring freeze and announced layoffs are coming
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No layoffs in Perimeter as today, but all training has been cancelled.
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Air Transat now. 3500 including all flight crew.

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Emirates is shutting down in the next couple of days.
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Inverted2 wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:16 am Emirates is shutting down in the next couple of days.
Mostly but not entirely. They plan to continue flights to a few destinations (YYZ among them) to help repatriate folks back to their home countries, and they're also continuing cargo operations. At the moment (until June), no pilot layoffs but everyone's taking a 50% pay reduction. Housing and other benefits continue. Not bad in the grand scheme of things.
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Layoffs going out to the last 4 Gs at AC...
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Redwine wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:23 pm I wouldn't worry about companies laying off. This virus will pretty much be the end of aviation as we know it. This virus is expanding exponentially and will kill off any remaining airlines. It's just a matter of time. Anyone who thinks this matter will go away in three to four months is out of touch with reality.
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iflyroads wrote: Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:24 pm Layoffs going out to the last 4 Gs at AC...
Who here said there's not way AC will fire their cheapest guys?
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Those are not their cheapest guy. Training costs money.
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CMA laying off staff / pilots today as well as suspending / closing YBL ops. Thoughts go out to those affected. Trying times Indeed.
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BA laying off 36,000 :shock:
50% of pilots and 80% of everyone else.

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Down south, furloughs were rescinded and min credit pay re-established until September 30. Most pilots were put on a reduced long-call reserve schedule at my airline. This is a result of the bailout package. It's just delaying EI, really, but gives a bit of money in the interim.
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I wish the LIB govt would offer something like directly to airlines. This 75% wage subsidies is a mystery to the airlines up here it seems.
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I am curious. How is it that AC (and I believe WJ and Encore) managed to come up with a work share agreement to reduce (mitigate) the effects of the industry downturn yet Jazz has come up with nothing?

Did the Jazz ALPA MEC sacrifice their junior members by not doing some sort of work share thus allowing senior members to carry on with normal 75 or 80 hour pay while the junior members hit the bricks? Did ALPA take the position that since the junior members are on the property as a stepping stone to something bigger (WJ or AC) that they were expendable in order not disrupt the lifestyle of senior, "lifers" at Jazz?

Inquiring minds would like to know.
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Sceptical wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:13 pm I am curious. How is it that AC (and I believe WJ and Encore) managed to come up with a work share agreement to reduce (mitigate) the effects of the industry downturn yet Jazz has come up with nothing?

Did the Jazz ALPA MEC sacrifice their junior members by not doing some sort of work share thus allowing senior members to carry on with normal 75 or 80 hour pay while the junior members hit the bricks? Did ALPA take the position that since the junior members are on the property as a stepping stone to something bigger (WJ or AC) that they were expendable in order not disrupt the lifestyle of senior, "lifers" at Jazz?

Inquiring minds would like to know.
Considering the flying was reduced to just 12% of last April’s flying, I’m going to say we are still over staffed. However, they did say they are still working on mitigation, so layoffs could be rescinded but had to go out when they did for the 30 day notice.
The reality is, this is not looking like a quick recovery and there may be more layoffs to come, hopefully I’m wrong!
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Soon the only ones left flying at Jazz and AC will be geriatrics.
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AC, WestJet and Envcore’s flying is down by 90% or more as well yet their unions managed to get a mitigation deal done to spread the pain, share the work and reduce the lay-off numbers yet our MEC at Jazz couldn’t do a similar deal in the same period.

Inquiring minds would like to know.
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Sceptical wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:24 pm AC, WestJet and Envcore’s flying is down by 90% or more as well yet their unions managed to get a mitigation deal done to spread the pain, share the work and reduce the lay-off numbers yet our MEC at Jazz couldn’t do a similar deal in the same period.

Inquiring minds would like to know.
Hey sceptical you spelled it wrong. Theres a month to sort it out. Relax.
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Sceptical wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:24 pm AC, WestJet and Envcore’s flying is down by 90% or more as well yet their unions managed to get a mitigation deal done to spread the pain, share the work and reduce the lay-off numbers yet our MEC at Jazz couldn’t do a similar deal in the same period.

Inquiring minds would like to know.
Interestingly enough, the two way provision to the One List saved a lot of jobs in the short term as I understand it.
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Jazz pilots don't own their flying, and CHR is paid a markup on its costs by AC. AC pays all the costs plus a % for their profit. That's how CHR make their $.

Do their costs have to be reflected in reality. Not full price for no flying.
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