And from Merriam-Webster, here's the part you conveniently omitted:
2: to act in harmony toward a common end
Come on photofly, I thought better of you than this.
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And from Merriam-Webster, here's the part you conveniently omitted:
You're deliberately misrepresenting what I'm saying. That seems antagonistic, but feel free to provide me with your cherry-picked definition of the word.photofly wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:19 pm And no, I'm not being antagonistic; just pointed out that you said you're not a conspiracy theorist, and then went on to describe the conspiracy theory in which you believe. Then you told me a whole load of stuff with which I disagreed. It's not antagonistic to point that out, is it?
Are you seriously suggesting that conspiracy has *anything* other than negative connotations? I don't think I'm going to waste time further arguing about what "conspiracy" means. We both know perfectly well.shimmydampner wrote: ↑Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:40 pmAnd from Merriam-Webster, here's the part you conveniently omitted:
2: to act in harmony toward a common end
Come on photofly, I thought better of you than this.
I regularly use the word in a manner that is not negative. It's a legitimate use of the word. After all, you brought up its definition. Well....part of the definition. Either your vocabulary isn't broad enough to include the use of the word in all its connotations, or you're playing games by cherry picking definitions as they suit you.
I thought we did, but now I'm not convinced. Either way, it certainly is a very silly thing to argue about and I commend your decision not to do so any more.I don't think I'm going to waste time further arguing about what "conspiracy" means. We both know perfectly well.
Yes, mail in voters skewed Biden so it must be fraudulent.
REALLY, do you actually believe what you are saying or just having a bad day.tsgarp wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:51 am So......
At this point one year ago we have a booming economy and Trump is on his way to re-election while taking a hard line against China and generally burning down the establishment in the US. During this whole time members of the establishment, especially the left leaning ones, are tossing out all s new of unity, fair play and decorum in their attempts to boot Trump. Some even openly wish for an economic crash to undermine Trump.
Low and behold, out of China (the very country which Trump is giving a very hard time) comes a virus which crashes our economy and allows those governors who wish to, to implement wide spread mail in voting. When Election Day comes, almost all of those mail in votes are for Biden.
If these events don’t make you at least mildly curious, you are either hyper-partisan or a bit dim.
Are you seriously so naive as to believe people in power don't conspire together to do things that they believe are the best things for them to do? Either for their own interests or for the interests of everyone.Well, to copy your posture, I did offer a dictionary definition: that's where Google gets it from - a dictionary. You might not agree, but it's pretty clear to me that "conspiracy" involves both secrecy and harm. You might conspire to a surprise birthday party, but that's a very ironic use of the word conspire.
I'm not going to argue defintions. I'm happy to go with the clear majority of the dictioniaries in which I looked, which require a two part test to be met for an agreement to be a conspiracy: 1. secret and 2. for a nefarious (definition: wicked, criminal) or unlawful purpose.Conspiring between individuals happens all the time and not all conspiracies are necessarily for nefarious reasons.
I think you meant "Cue", and I'm afraid I don't know what you're talking about here. Has there been some kind of revolt by pilots against wearing masks?
Lets ignore the fact that in the past mail in voters have always leaned lefttsgarp wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:51 am So......
At this point one year ago we have a booming economy and Trump is on his way to re-election while taking a hard line against China and generally burning down the establishment in the US. During this whole time members of the establishment, especially the left leaning ones, are tossing out all s new of unity, fair play and decorum in their attempts to boot Trump. Some even openly wish for an economic crash to undermine Trump.
Low and behold, out of China (the very country which Trump is giving a very hard time) comes a virus which crashes our economy and allows those governors who wish to, to implement wide spread mail in voting. When Election Day comes, almost all of those mail in votes are for Biden.
If these events don’t make you at least mildly curious, you are either hyper-partisan or a bit dim.
So, let's get this straight, you're saying that a bunch of left-wing governors thought the easiest way to get rid of a president they didn't like, is to get together and go to the Chinese government, ask them to invent a new virus, for which they would then wait a year to spread across the globe, merely to have the excuse to implement mail-in voting?tsgarp wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:51 am So......
At this point one year ago we have a booming economy and Trump is on his way to re-election while taking a hard line against China and generally burning down the establishment in the US. During this whole time members of the establishment, especially the left leaning ones, are tossing out all s new of unity, fair play and decorum in their attempts to boot Trump. Some even openly wish for an economic crash to undermine Trump.
Low and behold, out of China (the very country which Trump is giving a very hard time) comes a virus which crashes our economy and allows those governors who wish to, to implement wide spread mail in voting. When Election Day comes, almost all of those mail in votes are for Biden.
If these events don’t make you at least mildly curious, you are either hyper-partisan or a bit dim.
Well, since you put it that way, now it makes sense, I believe!photofly wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:26 pmSo, let's get this straight, you're saying that a bunch of left-wing governors thought the easiest way to get rid of a president they didn't like, is to get together and go to the Chinese government, ask them to invent a new virus, for which they would then wait a year to spread across the globe, merely to have the excuse to implement mail-in voting?tsgarp wrote: ↑Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:51 am So......
At this point one year ago we have a booming economy and Trump is on his way to re-election while taking a hard line against China and generally burning down the establishment in the US. During this whole time members of the establishment, especially the left leaning ones, are tossing out all s new of unity, fair play and decorum in their attempts to boot Trump. Some even openly wish for an economic crash to undermine Trump.
Low and behold, out of China (the very country which Trump is giving a very hard time) comes a virus which crashes our economy and allows those governors who wish to, to implement wide spread mail in voting. When Election Day comes, almost all of those mail in votes are for Biden.
If these events don’t make you at least mildly curious, you are either hyper-partisan or a bit dim.
And the Chinese said yes, we can do that! That's a great idea, we'll unleash this on the world and cause untold economic and human damage across the globe, kill millions of people, including our own, just so y'all can get an extra few thousand votes for Joe Biden?
Really?
And if I think that sounds like the most drug-induced ridiculous flight of fancy I've ever head, and it doesn't make me remotely curious (which it absolutely doesn't), then it's I who has the problem?
Wouldn't it be easier to just ... you know, implement widespread mail-in voting?
I’m not going to lie Rockie, you are pretty much who I had in mind when I drafted that description. The only thing required to make it fit you perfectly is to change the ‘or’ in the second clause to an ‘and’.