L-39

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:38 pm

This may be the wrong place to ask, but ...

Does anybody here own or fly an L-39? I'm getting bugged to fly one, which I guess means I need to go somewhere and get a type rating and to add it to my ICAS card ... does anybody know anything about them?

Driving Rain · Post by **Driving Rain** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:48 pm

http://www.jetwarbird.com/
Here you go bud. Don't worry they have a good ejection seat.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/calgary/story/ ... taxes.html
Ask this guy Michael Smith, he could use the money.

arctic navigator · Post by **arctic navigator** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:48 pm

I think their are a couple in calgary

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:05 pm

I guess I'm going to Sante Fe to see Larry. Looks like he's got his ICAS card so I'm sure he knows a qualified ACE.

I was hoping someone here had flown one, don't wanna bug Andre Lortie, he's always incredibly busy.

It's a trainer, after all, so I figure it can't be a fire-breathing dragon. Guess I'll find out soon enough. Should be fun putting together a solo airshow routine.

Thx guys.

Grey_Wolf · Post by **Grey_Wolf** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:14 pm

There's a gentleman who has two of them based at Kitchener-Waterloo (CYKF). A little reserach may be in order.

Dex · Post by **Dex** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:22 pm

If you go here http://www.tc.gc.ca/aviation/activepage ... .asp#quick
and type in L39 in the model number form, two results from Alberta come up.

Kilo-Kilo · Post by **Kilo-Kilo** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:03 pm

Dex wrote:If you go here http://www.tc.gc.ca/aviation/activepage ... .asp#quick
and type in L39 in the model number form, two results from Alberta come up.

Weren't those the two that the media made a story out of saying they were smuggled in to the country by a private collector when the fact of the matter was the taxes simply hadn't been paid on them?

Snowgoose · Post by **Snowgoose** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:32 pm

The fellow in YKF that owns one is Steve Milligan, almost positive that he doesn't have an ICAS card. Bill Carter over in Guelph may still be an ACE, not really sure, haven't seen him in a few years.

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:10 am

Heh - I know Bill. Unfortunately, he's not qualified as an ICAS ACE to evaluate "jet warbird aerobatics", as ICAS puts it.

P.S. I'm astonished that anyone would C-reg an L39. Apart from the incredible Transport hassle - you would be grounded for at least a year, generating mountains of paper as if cost is no object - it would kill the resale value of the aircraft in the USA, which I suspect must be 99% of your resale market.

dave7101 · Post by **dave7101** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:41 pm

Some pic's of the L39 based at ykf on the link below

(also live atc links)

http://cykf.net/Liveatc/JAlbumIndex.htm

Saw this zoom out from rwy 07 at ykf a few weeks back... awesome

fougapilot · Post by **fougapilot** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:51 am

H,

I was qualified on the 39 back in the days the NL had them. Easy bird to fly. Does nice loops and rolls. A little heavy on the controls if you ask me.

I would recommend Dan McCue from Maine. He is after all the man responsible for bringing these lovely machines to the west. He has access to a 39 (he sold his) and could train you on it. First thing you will need is a type rating (TC and/or FAA) then an ACE. Dan was an ACE in a previous live and could recommend a good Jet guy.

They can be registered in CA simply because Andre built the mountain of paper work and opened the door for everyone else. You thought the 39 was hard? Try the Hunter...

Email me if you want details,

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Expat · Post by **Expat** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 11:49 am

I saw one in Mont-Laurier last time I flew through there.

mellow_pilot · Post by **mellow_pilot** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:26 pm

Didn't Northern Lights have a couple of them a few years back? (2001ish)

linecrew · Post by **linecrew** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:47 pm

mellow_pilot wrote:Didn't Northern Lights have a couple of them a few years back? (2001ish)

I believe they stopped flying them after this accident:

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_ ... 063&akey=1

fougapilot · Post by **fougapilot** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 1:18 pm

Linecrew,

Nothing could be further from the truth. The NL were associated with the individual involved on this accident a while back. When their association terminated (I could only speculate as to why) they bought / rented 4 L39 that were flown on the airshow circuit (for one season only) in 2001. Then in 2002 the obtained a contract from the Canadian Forces and moved to Hawker Hunters. To date, they have 9 Hunters on military contracts.

To the best of my knowledge, the only association bwtween the NL and the crash L39 was the paint job.

http://www.nlcas.com

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mellow_pilot · Post by **mellow_pilot** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:40 pm

Fouga, that should be .ca, not .com...

http://www.nlcas.ca/content.cfm?PageID=5

(i was surprised to see that Northern Lights were providing loans at a reasonable rate!)

fougapilot · Post by **fougapilot** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:04 pm

Oops, thanks mellow

linecrew · Post by **linecrew** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:13 pm

fougapilot wrote:Linecrew,

Nothing could be further from the truth. ....Then in 2002 the obtained a contract from the Canadian Forces and moved to Hawker Hunters. To date, they have 9 Hunters on military contracts.

Thanks for the correction..you learn something new everyday!

Do they still have the Hunters? I thought the contract was recently awarded to these guys.

fougapilot · Post by **fougapilot** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:08 am

It is true the the Canadian contract went to TA with their Alpha Jets. Sometimes, life trows you a curve and you have to react. The NL are now serving the military forces of other countries with airplanes based in Europe, USA and Asia.

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mellow_pilot · Post by **mellow_pilot** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:56 am

fougapilot wrote:Oops, thanks mellow

Here to help!

L-39

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L39 at ykf