Embraer Runway Excursion RNY 07 in Ottawa few moments ago...

[Shadowfax]

At least it's not a Dash 8 with 10 THOUSAND feet of runway (happy now?). Or an A340 at Turonta....shit happens quick in marginal weather....right?

[Shadowfax]

With all due respect, that's a little immature to be stating that comment when you have no clue what you are talking about.

True, I don't know anything at all about that crew but I suppose I was generalizing the US feeder experience & renumeration. That, you have to agree with me on.

Westjet did it a little while ago too on the very same runway and they weren't the first.

http://ottawa.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/C ... OttawaHome

I hear ya! June can be really bad for icing on the runway. Good comparison.

[BTD]

Westjet did it a little while ago too on the very same runway and they weren't the first.

http://ottawa.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/C ... OttawaHome

Other Ottawa Overruns.

http://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-repor ... 0h0004.asp

http://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-repor ... 4o0188.asp

The second one very similar to yesterdays, except they were landing 25.

That's what 2000hrs total time between both pilots and crap pay gets ya.

According to the Ottawa Sun the Captain is 48 and the F/O 31. While this doesn't guarantee experience, (as per Colgan) it wasn't a couple kids flying the aircraft.

BTD

[pilotbzh]

I have had experienced very strong tailwind on approach of 07 all to find a headwind on the ground resulting in increasing airspeed and long landing, ottawa weather can be strange at time especially when a front is going by.... Glad it's a minor accident.

[cdnpilot77]

Where's Doc???

Uncalled for...I think DOC would probably be all over this if there is a perceived conspiracy to cover up what happened. Hopefully we will find out what happened quickly, learn from it, and move on.

[linecrew]

True, I don't know anything at all about that crew but I suppose I was generalizing the US feeder experience & renumeration. That, you have to agree with me on.

Westjet did it a little while ago too on the very same runway and they weren't the first.

http://ottawa.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/C ... OttawaHome

I hear ya! June can be really bad for icing on the runway. Good comparison.

Maybe next time educate yourself before calling someone out and shooting your mouth off. The 737 overran after a very late touchdown.

[xsbank]

Good time to complain about the airport at our capital city - all that concrete but no c/l lighting and must be the world's last back course approach. Crappy ground lighting too.

[teacher]

Glad everyone is generally OK.

As for the Back Course, screw that, I'll take the NDB overlay.

[whiteguy]

Good time to complain about the airport at our capital city - all that concrete but no c/l lighting and must be the world's last back course approach. Crappy ground lighting too.

What are the approaches on 10 in YYC and 20 in YEG?

[yycflyguy]

Good time to complain about the airport at our capital city - all that concrete but no c/l lighting and must be the world's last back course approach. Crappy ground lighting too.

What are the approaches on 10 in YYC and 20 in YEG?

Visual only for 10 in YYC on the Bus.

[whiteguy]

Good time to complain about the airport at our capital city - all that concrete but no c/l lighting and must be the world's last back course approach. Crappy ground lighting too.

What are the approaches on 10 in YYC and 20 in YEG?

Visual only for 10 in YYC on the Bus.

Yeah, someone told me that before. Why is that?

[whiteguy]

Other Ottawa Overruns.

http://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-repor ... 0h0004.asp

http://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-repor ... 4o0188.asp

The second one very similar to yesterdays, except they were landing 25

Second one is also same airline and aircraft. Note that there are no thrust reserve on these aircraft.

[IanC]

Note that there are no thrust reserve on these aircraft.

I thought it was available as an option on the 145? Or are you referring specifically to the one involved?

[whiteguy]

Note that there are no thrust reserve on these aircraft.

I thought it was available as an option on the 145? Or are you referring specifically to the one involved?

It is an option but this specific aircraft and many others operated by Trans State do not have them.

[Joe Blow Schmo]

Edit: Update:

http://ottawa.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/C ... OttawaHome

Emergency crews are on the scene at the Ottawa International Airport after a plane slid off the runway this afternoon.

Marc Messier of Ottawa Fire Services says the plane was landing when it apparently slid off the runway.

The plane has been evacuated and the situation has become a precautionary measure, said Messier.

No other details were immediately available.

You're all missing the important question here.....When did Mark Messier switch careers??

[jjj]

Runway 25 in CYOW becomes the worst piece of pavement in the country when it gets a skiff of water on it.

I hope and pray that these guys put'er down on speed on the centreline and on the 1000 footer. Then they can submit the repair bill to the airport authority who can take a bit of money out of the waterfall budget to cover the cost. Then maybe this will be a wake up call to get runway 25 up to snuff before anyone gets hurt.

JJJ

[armchair]

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[CJ6]

Having landed at that airport many times, and on that runway when wet, I have to fully agree with JJJ. As soon as that runway becomes even a little bit wet, its just like its contaminated with ice...its weird. No idea why it happens.

[ziggy]

Yep, I agree, runway 07/25 is a slick one when its wet.

And 10 in YYC and 20 in YEG are both RNP short gates, aren't they?

[FICU]

Maybe next time educate yourself before calling someone out and shooting your mouth off. The 737 overran after a very late touchdown.

...and the Captain did not arm the speedbrake.