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PC 12 De-Ice Equipment

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Hello all,

I have never flown an aircraft with boots before, and I do not have much knowledge regarding aircraft de-icing equipment, so please pardon my lack of knowledge on the subject.

I have always wondered why the PC-12 does not have a de-icing boot on its vertical stab. Most aircraft I seen have one on both stabs. Is the PC-12 not susceptible to icing on its vertical stab? Does it have to do with its fin design? I have always been curious.

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The manufacturer has decided that it is not required for safe flight. Keep in mind there is a difference between taking off with ice and continuing flight with ice.

The 737 only has deice on on the wing from the engine to about 1/2 way to the tip. There is no deice at the tip, root or tail.
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The Cessna 550 had a vertical stab boot. The 560 didn't because the engineers realized that ice doesn't form on the vertical stab and thus decided to discard the idea, and the boot.
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The vertical stab isn't asymmetrical even though it is usually offset a little to adjust for thrust asymmetry so many aircraft don't require de-icing equipment for it. It's interesting that the Beech 100 has a de-ice boot on the vertical stab but the Beech 200 doesn't.
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There are lots of airplanes certified for flight in forcast or known ice without a de-ice boot on the vertical fin. Beech 200, 300, 350, Metro 2 and 3 comes to mind. All depends on flight test data during initial design.
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CRJ's have no ice protection at all on the tail - vertical or horizontal surfaces.
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Awesome! Thank you!
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rxl wrote:CRJ's have no ice protection at all on the tail - vertical or horizontal surfaces.
Really... I never noticed. It doesn't naturally form there somehow?
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The 320 only has Engine Intake Anti Ice and only Anti Ice protection on the outer half of the wing, it's funny to park beside a 737 after an approach in ice, because Boeing and Airbus have a completely different idea with the 737 only protecting the inner half, and the outer half on the Airbus.
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nwopilot wrote:I have always wondered why the PC-12 does not have a de-icing boot on its vertical stab. Most aircraft I seen have one on both stabs. Is the PC-12 not susceptible to icing on its vertical stab? Does it have to do with its fin design?
Do they have a slinger ring for the prop ?
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sstaurus wrote:
rxl wrote:CRJ's have no ice protection at all on the tail - vertical or horizontal surfaces.
Really... I never noticed. It doesn't naturally form there somehow?
It does form on the tail, but in 12+ years of flying the airplane I have never seen any more than what I would describe as a trace.
In testing it was determined that ice protection was not required on the tail surfaces.
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