Too many flight schools ?

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Too many flight schools ?

#1 Post by butterflyRotors » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:44 pm

I was wondering if there was an issue in the industry at the low time level, found plenty of school for commercial training but I have not found many companies that hire fresh 100 hours pilots.

Are some schools just businesses to make money ? which are worse ?
Are there schools that will turn away students if they are not really fit for the trade ?
Which schools are reputable to graduate students that are finding jobs VS students that try to find jobs.

I find weird that there is no filter to enter the program.
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Re: Too many flight schools ?

#2 Post by Loner » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:37 am

butterflyRotors wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:44 pm
Are some schools just businesses to make money ?
Are there schools that will turn away students if they are not really fit for the trade ?
Really?! Are you that naive?
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Re: Too many flight schools ?

#3 Post by Aviatard » Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:18 am

butterflyRotors wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:44 pm
Are some schools just businesses to make money ?
All flight schools are businesses. Businesses exist to make money. That's pretty much how capitalism works. Did you expect a flight school to be a charity?
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Re: Too many flight schools ?

#4 Post by butterflyRotors » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:48 pm

Maybe naive. What I am for certain is unfamiliar with the aviation industry.

And about capitalism, ever heard of a car garage ? It's a business right ? some are ripping customers and some others are doing phenomenal job with passion. I am asking which school is the best to get the most relevant experience and directions without the bullsh... of yeah there is job, your flying is fine, yes here is your license thanks for the 70 000$
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Re: Too many flight schools ?

#5 Post by crosstube » Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:09 am

Well to start, I have to say you have the right attitude to be in this industry, You don't take bullsh... Now like you said, it's like a car garage business, some are good and some are there just to make money. I would say most of them are good and decent schools. Keep asking questions and some newly trained helicopter guys will answer your questions better than I could, myself being a longtime heli pilot but not in connection with any schools or what they teach nowadays.
Suggestion to you, have you thought of going fixed-wing? The helicopter industry and the trade itself is slowly dying from the technologies coming out these days, like drones etc etc Seems like now it is slowly coming back to life and a demand for heli pilots (experienced) is on the rise but will never come back to what it used to be (my thoughts)
Like I said earlier keep asking questions and you will get some intelligent answers from people who know what the heli school system is like.

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Re: Too many flight schools ?

#6 Post by All Sides » Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:18 am

Well I disagree with cross tube on one thing, you will have to put up with plenty of BS if you get into the helicopter industry.

Before you spend any of your hard earned money do lots of research, talk to as many pilots as you can. Forget doing it on forums, do it in person. For example, the average low time pilot that ever finds gainful employment is probably under 15%. Of the pilots that do, a lot of them spend up to 5 years sweeping floors, driving pick up trucks, dispatching, you get the picture.
As cross tube says, drones will be taking a lot of work away from the industry, how much of it is highly debatable. If you still decide to do your training after exhaustive research, it depends on where you live and what kind of job you will be looking for that would dictate where you should train. By the way if you plan to get your first job in Vancouver, Calgary or Toronto, save your money. Think High Level, Norman Wells or Yellowknife for example, perhaps even worse. Plan 4 week shifts in exploration camps or crappy hotels in the middle of nowhere once you do have experience.


There’s more if you are still interested, do your research and leave your attitude at the door is my advise.
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Re: Too many flight schools ?

#7 Post by butterflyRotors » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:16 pm

Thanks for the constructive answers All sides and Crosstube,

I already did my CPL course I was just browsing info to see which ones should I go to next for further PPCs or Recurrency or endorsements. The school I chose has been unable to help me get a job yet.

I did a few job hunt trips with my best A1 attitude! Told them I didn't even expect to fly, just looking for a position related to helicopters. That I want to build some reputation in the industry and ect. I came too early, then too late. Still plan to hit the north, I started to fish some info, first phone calls and emails and then road trip because I can tell some chief pilots or Ops managers are kind of pitying or laughing at the scenario when I show up with my papers asking for a job. I don't mind it! One day I will get my chance and hustle my way up, but I am trying to be smart as my savings are going down on this path! So I like to call first...Don't regret a penny spent yet tho.

Would be nice to find out how good of a pilot I can be one day, accomplish that revenue flight for the first time... before I hit 50.

Like everybody I mean literally everybody I have talked to for a job said : "Good luck !"

So yeah, Good luck to us all low time dreamers ! Our luck and persistence will reward one day.
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