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Hiring on stand by

#1 Post by CanadianPilotQc » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:52 am

got the words from a training captain that hiring was frozen for two months. and people that are in the pool will swim all summer. any infos on this?
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#2 Post by Woodkid » Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:22 pm

I did my medical exam 3 weeks ago and I didn't receive any response from Jazz. So yes maybe the hiring process is on Standby right now.
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#3 Post by FL-280 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:06 pm

I know a GS started today...
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#4 Post by Outlaw58 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:45 am

And there is another may 7th
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#5 Post by Canoehead » Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:17 am

CanadianPilotQc wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:52 am
got the words from a training captain that hiring was frozen for two months. and people that are in the pool will swim all summer. any infos on this?
That training captain was incorrect.
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#6 Post by KenoraPilot » Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:17 am

Just had CRM and the CP for "west" was in our class and informed us that the hiring outlooks have dropped a bit down to a forecast of 200 for 2018. But no mention of "halting"
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#7 Post by co-joe » Tue May 15, 2018 4:50 pm

And you guys thought the new new PML didn't meant they threw the 80% flow out the window in favour of whatever the heck they felt like doing today. Welcome to climbing the grease pole.
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#8 Post by Tap » Wed May 16, 2018 9:56 am

What is going on with the PML, has it stopped or greatly slowed down?
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#9 Post by Kapitanov » Wed May 16, 2018 11:04 am

Right now it looks like it has almost stopped at least for this summer...
No one has heard anything yet or had a reply from the AC Express Pilot Careers Portal posting that came out in March. And only a few have been hired from PML 2.0 in the last six months. Mostly people from PML 1.0 hired recently but only a few once again. However, it looks like Jazz is finally at a proper level of staffing and most hiring from the PML should happen this fall hopefully.
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#10 Post by Tap » Wed May 16, 2018 11:58 am

Do you think this will slow upgrade times down significantly and FOs be stuck to close to a 2K a month paycheck for a couple years?
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#11 Post by dhc# » Wed May 16, 2018 12:37 pm

Ouch...if the party is indeed over for now, those FO wages would be hard to take if there is little movement in the near future...
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#12 Post by Rowdy » Wed May 16, 2018 3:04 pm

AC generally (historically) does not run new hire PIT courses in the summer months. Everyone fretted about this last summer too..
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#13 Post by Tap » Wed May 16, 2018 7:18 pm

I agree, but as far as I know ( very little ) Jazz ( and maybe ALPA) have close to zero interest in any form of a pay increase to FO’s or Jazz pilots as a whole?

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#14 Post by Inverted2 » Wed May 16, 2018 7:54 pm

As long as they have a supply of warm bodies to fill seats, they don't have any reason to increase pay.
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#15 Post by fish4life » Fri May 18, 2018 10:56 am

Tap wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 7:18 pm
I agree, but as far as I know ( very little ) Jazz ( and maybe ALPA) have close to zero interest in any form of a pay increase to FO’s or Jazz pilots as a whole?

Thoughts?
ALPA gets union dues as a percentage of pay so it’s in their best interest to get higher rates of pay
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Re: Hiring on stand by

#16 Post by mbav8r » Fri May 18, 2018 11:52 am

ALPA has no reason to prevent increases in pay, they represent ALL Jazz pilots not just the new ones who chose to accept the conditions, Jazz management has no reason to raise the pay considering pilots continue to accept the current conditions.
Bit of a conundrum, if you ask me, ALPA can’t get us more because pilots choose to accept but the pilots who choose to accept blame ALPA for not getting them more.
As for hiring on standby, normal ops during the summer, has been for years.
As for the Jazz surplus, a combination of factors but I believe the target demographic for the LOA is more senior pilots, that has and will always be the goal by Jazz management going forward. The projected surplus is until next summer, the LOAs are short term with pilots expected to return by spring 19. I suspect we will continue hiring depending on how many pilots take a leave, the PML is no doubt slowing somewhat but it’s not stopping.
What I’d like to know, are more qualified(degree) pilots choosing the other Express carriers, not sure why they would fill more seats than Jazz pilots at AC.
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