Recalls commencing spring 2021 to accommodate increase to 70% capacity. New-hires spring 2022 if AC starts hiring again.
If Jazz and SKY merge, or if AC still has pilots on lay-off for all of 2022, no Express hiring before 2023.
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Recalls commencing spring 2021 to accommodate increase to 70% capacity. New-hires spring 2022 if AC starts hiring again.
Pure speculation. But just look at what AC is doing with the schedule and listen to what is AC is saying publicly.
Exactly.
This is pure speculation. Everything being said in public is super conservative. In reality, they just don't know. Watch the schedule as it is updated month to month. Watch passenger numbers as they are published. Watch when and under what conditions boarders are reopening. Everything he is saying is being pulled from his ass, with the self delusional confidence pilots tend to exume.
It's going to be a while I would guess. Jazz currently has 675 pilots "inactive" which all need to come back on the property before Jazz will "hire" again. Also the only reason Jazz was really hiring was due to the shortage at AC which has now gone away. AC has many pilots furloughed which all need to be recalled before they hire again. So until you see AC hiring, you won't really see Jazz hiring for the foreseeable future. Jazz has an average of 33.6 pilots per year who are reaching 65 in the next 5 years. 168 to reach 65 by 2024. Even retirement/attrition doesn't account for the kind of hiring we've seen over the past 5 years. Personally I think we're going back to the 1-3 GS's a year like it was pre 2015 (at least for a little while).
That's my line of thinking as well. I figure 12-24 months to get recalled at Jazz depending on seniority. I was in the hiring pool at AC before all of this went down and was expecting a call for April/May GS (references were called and all) and it seems like now I will most likely get on with AC in 3 ish years +/- 1 year.
That's my line of thinking as well. I figure 12-24 months to get recalled at Jazz depending on seniority. I was in the hiring pool at AC before all of this went down and was expecting a call for April/May GS (references were called and all) and it seems like now I will most likely get on with AC in 3 ish years +/- 1 year.
Don't forget Sky has a much smaller operation and employs +/- 280 pilots versus 1500+ at Jazz...
Not sure where the Planespotters site gets their updates, but this snapshot of the number of Jazz planes currently in service has increased in the past six weeks since the last time I checked the numbers from that site (29 total aircraft in service on May 13th 2020)...maybe some good news...
I would take the corporate job. If Jazz calls you back before the bond is up you can defer your recall. No one knows how long this will last. My guess is no Jazz recalls until spring 2021 at the earliest.Ride_the_waves13 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:33 pm Of the 675 pilots placed on inactive status, i was roughly #500. Had 2 and a half years with jazz. Now if i were offered a corporate gig with good pay and all, but a 2 year bond, should i take it? Or do you think ill get called back within 2 years??
I would 100% take the job as we have no clue how long this all is going to last.Ride_the_waves13 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:33 pm Of the 675 pilots placed on inactive status, i was roughly #500. Had 2 and a half years with jazz. Now if i were offered a corporate gig with good pay and all, but a 2 year bond, should i take it? Or do you think ill get called back within 2 years??