You sir are one of the most sensible on this freakin forum and 100% correct.FlyHigh13 wrote:sstaurus wrote:So, as Krimson said, if you're a new hire now, and getting on a migration list to AC is seniority based, then you have nearly 3 airlines worth of pilots (jazz/sky/ggn) who will get that interview before you. Seems a toss up to me whether OTS or jazz gives you a better chance... In the meantime, is it better to wait all those years at a decent paying 703/704 gig or making peanuts at jazz?
I don't believe that's how it works. I believe 80% of AC's hiring will be done by All Express carriers once PML is exhausted. The amount from each express carrier is a ratio of how many pilots they employ. Since Jazz is still the largest, they will have the largest cut of the express carriers. If the PML list is exhausted already, that means it will probably be the new hires now who will be going because everyone ahead of them already decided to go or not go.
Also to note the poolies aren't completely hooped. Here is a snippet fr ACPA MOA regarding the PMA
I think this is the most fair and equitable way of handling senioroty for both jazz pilots and poolies. (Sorry I hate calling you that but it seems to have stuck)
A pilot training course is scheduled for 10 pilots on January 30th, 2015. The Company provides offers to 8 Jazz pilots from the PML and 2 pilots from the street (pilots A.B. and C.D). 2 Jazz pilots opt to defer their Employment Date and are replaced with 2 other Jazz pilots. As a result, during the lottery there will 12 pilots whose seniority will be determined at the conclusion of that training course. For the Jazz pilots the word “Jazz” will be used, whereas the other two pilots will use their names.Then each ballot will be selected to determine the seniority numbers. Assuming the order of the ballots was “Jazz, Jazz, A.B., Jazz, C.D., Jazz, Jazz, Jazz, Jazz, Jazz, Jazz, Jazz” the result would be as follows: the senior most Jazz pilot on the course, which may be one of the two who deferred, will be provided the first number; the second most senior Jazz pilot will receive the second number; then A.B. will receive his number; then the third most senior Jazz pilot; then C.D.; and then continuing through the Jazz pilots in order of their previous relative Jazz .
3. In the Air Canada hiring process, the ratio of pilots offered employment by Air Canada pursuant to the PML will be applied, to the extent possible, on a per course basis and reviewed on a quarterly basis in order to track compliance with the minimum hiring requirements stipulated in the Pilot Mobility .