New hire bids

[DH8Pilot]

We won't find out exactly until Nov. 5. However, based on recent ground schools and where the internal movement appears to be, I'd assume this class will again skew quite heavily toward the RJ.

[dieselbro]

We won't find out exactly until Nov. 5. However, based on recent ground schools and where the internal movement appears to be, I'd assume this class will again skew quite heavily toward the RJ.

Cool, thanks for the update!

[what_limit?]

Anyone know what the bids were for this class?

[CanadianEh]

2 YYC RJ
6 YVR RJ
2 YYZ Q400
4 YVR Q400

[what_limit?]

2 YYC RJ
6 YVR RJ
2 YYZ Q400
4 YVR Q400

Nice, thanks!

[timeflies]

December 3rd bid anyone ?

[FL-280]

2 RJ YUL
6 RJ YVR
1 YVR Q
Remaining is Q in YYZ...

12 Person course I believe

[Babar350]

Thank you !

[what_limit?]

RJ
YUL 2
YYZ 0
YYC 0
YVR 6
No classics
Q
YUL 0
YYZ 3
YYC 0
YVR 1

12 on course

[Babar350]

Hellooww!

New year new bid?

[yvonne2823]

4 YVR Q
1 YYZ Q
3 YUL Q
4 YUL Classic
3 YVR RJ
1 YYC RJ

[pilot4hire]

Might be a silly question but let’s say I wanted a specific base and did not get it, can I eventually bid for it? If so, how long would the wait typically be?
Do people ever switch to a different aircraft type?

Thanks

[KenoraPilot]

Might be a silly question but let’s say I wanted a specific base and did not get it, can I eventually bid for it? If so, how long would the wait typically be?
Do people ever switch to a different aircraft type?

Thanks

You can request the base you want almost right after you get your type (Electronic Standing Bid). Getting the base is a matter of seniority. Once you can hold that base on your type you will be moved. Things currently are still moving so people are getting bases usually within 6mths of hire. Occasionally there is a longer wait and it also depends on what type you're flying. For example if you're on the CRJ YYC it might take a little while longer as the base is quite senior and they recently reduced some of the RJ's out of YYC. If you want DH8 YUL you'll probably get it quickly. Changing types is almost always after your 4yr type freeze or initial captain upgrade. When you upgrade you can pick any plane you can hold seniority wise. If anyone tells you that "differences" courses for the DH8 and Q400 happen often are lying. They can happen but are extremely rare in my opinion (I can be wrong) but based on what I see the type you get on day 2 is the type you'll have for 4 years as FO or until you upgrade and choose something different.

Best suggestion is pick where you want to live vs. the plane you want to fly. You can always change that but commuting add's a whole next level to the game.

[CFM56]

As per our contract you’re frozen on type for 4yrs (following the initial line check) in the same base or 2 yrs if you are trying to transfer to another base.

I’ve been told from an ALPA rep that they seeked clarification from management on the Q400 vs DH8 for the freeze. They claimed that there isn’t one because it’s a differences course and not a full out new type (I’m still sceptical on that).

[HansDietrich]

As per our contract you’re frozen on type for 4yrs (following the initial line check) in the same base or 2 yrs if you are trying to transfer to another base.

I’ve been told from an ALPA rep that they seeked clarification from management on the Q400 vs DH8 for the freeze. They claimed that there isn’t one because it’s a differences course and not a full out new type (I’m still sceptical on that).

That's not going to happen. As far as Jazz is concerned, and their "FREEZE POLICY", the DH8 and Q400 are two different type ratings. That's one of the main reason I quit Jazz.

My advice to anyone: IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE PLANE / DESTINATIONS YOU'RE FLYING PICK THE PLANE, NOT THE BASE. IT'S A LOT EASIER TO SWITCH BASES THAN IT IS TO SWITCH PLANES. OF COURSE, THAT DOES NOT APPLY IF YOU REALLY WANT YYZ BASE AND YOU ALSO WANT THE RJ.

[KenoraPilot]

As per our contract you’re frozen on type for 4yrs (following the initial line check) in the same base or 2 yrs if you are trying to transfer to another base.

I’ve been told from an ALPA rep that they seeked clarification from management on the Q400 vs DH8 for the freeze. They claimed that there isn’t one because it’s a differences course and not a full out new type (I’m still sceptical on that).

That's not going to happen. As far as Jazz is concerned, and their "FREEZE POLICY", the DH8 and Q400 are two different type ratings. That's one of the main reason I quit Jazz.

My advice to anyone: IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE PLANE / DESTINATIONS YOU'RE FLYING PICK THE PLANE, NOT THE BASE. IT'S A LOT EASIER TO SWITCH BASES THAN IT IS TO SWITCH PLANES. OF COURSE, THAT DOES NOT APPLY IF YOU REALLY WANT YYZ BASE AND YOU ALSO WANT THE RJ.

I agree with Hans, if you care about the plane you fly and the overnights you will have please do some research into where they overnight etc. Hans was not impressed with his DH8 YYZ experience as it goes to the lovely northern destinations such as YSB (worst overnight in YYZ base IMO). The DH8 out west does some very nice overnights though, YLW, YCD, YXE, YYJ, YQQ......but also YMM (which isn't' awful but the hotel does need some TLC) lol

The CRJ will do a ton of US flying and US overnights which is lovely for the per diem (currently) as well as some cross country and a lot of YWG stand ups (if you're western based). The Q and RJ do a lot of stand ups, the DH8 does a few but not as many as the Q or RJ.

Do some research if plane/overnight is important. If life style and where you live/spend your time on RSV is important then pick a base. It's almost a guarantee that you'll be on RSV for a few months at minimum when you start.

[Oxi]

As per our contract you’re frozen on type for 4yrs (following the initial line check) in the same base or 2 yrs if you are trying to transfer to another base.

I’ve been told from an ALPA rep that they seeked clarification from management on the Q400 vs DH8 for the freeze. They claimed that there isn’t one because it’s a differences course and not a full out new type (I’m still sceptical on that).

That's not going to happen. As far as Jazz is concerned, and their "FREEZE POLICY", the DH8 and Q400 are two different type ratings. That's one of the main reason I quit Jazz.

My advice to anyone: IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE PLANE / DESTINATIONS YOU'RE FLYING PICK THE PLANE, NOT THE BASE. IT'S A LOT EASIER TO SWITCH BASES THAN IT IS TO SWITCH PLANES. OF COURSE, THAT DOES NOT APPLY IF YOU REALLY WANT YYZ BASE AND YOU ALSO WANT THE RJ.

This is not true. The q400 and classic are differences and are not frozen. If you went from one to the other then an RJ

[HansDietrich]

As per our contract you’re frozen on type for 4yrs (following the initial line check) in the same base or 2 yrs if you are trying to transfer to another base.

I’ve been told from an ALPA rep that they seeked clarification from management on the Q400 vs DH8 for the freeze. They claimed that there isn’t one because it’s a differences course and not a full out new type (I’m still sceptical on that).

That's not going to happen. As far as Jazz is concerned, and their "FREEZE POLICY", the DH8 and Q400 are two different type ratings. That's one of the main reason I quit Jazz.

My advice to anyone: IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE PLANE / DESTINATIONS YOU'RE FLYING PICK THE PLANE, NOT THE BASE. IT'S A LOT EASIER TO SWITCH BASES THAN IT IS TO SWITCH PLANES. OF COURSE, THAT DOES NOT APPLY IF YOU REALLY WANT YYZ BASE AND YOU ALSO WANT THE RJ.

This is not true. The q400 and classic are differences and are not frozen. If you went from one to the other then an RJ

Well if things have changed, since I quit, then maybe you're correct, but I had the Q400 on my standing bid from day one. 1.5 years later I was still on the Dash 8. I was told by ALPA there is nothing they can do. They can't get me on the Q because I'm frozen on the DH8

[Lightchop]

That's not going to happen. As far as Jazz is concerned, and their "FREEZE POLICY", the DH8 and Q400 are two different type ratings. That's one of the main reason I quit Jazz.

My advice to anyone: IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE PLANE / DESTINATIONS YOU'RE FLYING PICK THE PLANE, NOT THE BASE. IT'S A LOT EASIER TO SWITCH BASES THAN IT IS TO SWITCH PLANES. OF COURSE, THAT DOES NOT APPLY IF YOU REALLY WANT YYZ BASE AND YOU ALSO WANT THE RJ.

This is not true. The q400 and classic are differences and are not frozen. If you went from one to the other then an RJ

Well if things have changed, since I quit, then maybe you're correct, but I had the Q400 on my standing bid from day one. 1.5 years later I was still on the Dash 8. I was told by ALPA there is nothing they can do. They can't get me on the Q because I'm frozen on the DH8

The only place I've really seen anyone get released was if they were for example a classic FO, took the upgrade on the Q and a few months later could hold the RJ. Since the Q upgrade was not a full initial they were able to move up to the RJ. I have not however, heard of any people moving FO classic to FO Q or vise versa on the "differences" course. There may be a few but none that I know of.

[Babar350]

When bidding the new base, can we see our number on the list to have a rough idea of when we'll be holding the base we bid?
Do we need to bid every month or the system keeps us on the list?