17 year TA?
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Re: 17 year TA?
Yup...
He offers no plan....
Abundantly clear when he had the mic in YUL.
He offers no plan....
Abundantly clear when he had the mic in YUL.
Re: 17 year TA?
Thanks for the nice PM.blueskiessabove wrote: ↑Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:48 amIt's better to be the bigger person but karma will come to play. And I think I know who this new elected LEC is have fun.V1Vr wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:33 pmDoubt it.blueskiessabove wrote: ↑Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:05 pm
Will get more if it's turned down, AC is scared that's why there coming at us with a 17 year contract. Nobody offers that long of a contract if there not worried about pilots. Wait why not lock it in for 17 years! LOL
Curious, when do you retire? I think I know who you are and if I'm right you stand to lose nothing if this is voted down.
Title of the PM "Shitty FO"blueskiessabove wrote:Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:22 am I'm amazed you have a vote
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His "speech" in YYC was an embarrassment to himself and anyone he represents. His whole nonsensical rant about the AC medical and the exchange/wild accusations he made? Way too far.. the exchange that followed was by far the most awkward and socially painful moments Ive experienced as any sort of professional. Brian gave a great speech about unity and working together that really resonated with me, and perhaps a few others.. so I suppose it explains why DC voted against him as well. It's a train wreck to watch. Please don't ask me how I really feel lol
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V1Vr wrote: ↑Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:01 amAnother Union driver lol such a sad state!blueskiessabove wrote: ↑Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:48 amIt's better to be the bigger person but karma will come to play. And I think I know who this new elected LEC is have fun.
Thanks for the nice PM.
Title of the PM "Shitty FO"blueskiessabove wrote:Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:22 am I'm amazed you have a vote
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V1Vr wrote: ↑Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:01 amAnother Union driver lol such a sad state!blueskiessabove wrote: ↑Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:48 amIt's better to be the bigger person but karma will come to play. And I think I know who this new elected LEC is have fun.
Thanks for the nice PM.
Title of the PM "Shitty FO"blueskiessabove wrote:Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:22 am I'm amazed you have a vote
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TV1Vr wrote: ↑Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:01 amAnother Union driver lol such a sad state!blueskiessabove wrote: ↑Thu Jan 24, 2019 12:48 amIt's better to be the bigger person but karma will come to play. And I think I know who this new elected LEC is have fun.
Thanks for the nice PM.
No Prob would do it again in a heart beat your an idiot.
Title of the PM "Shitty FO"blueskiessabove wrote:Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:22 am I'm amazed you have a vote
Doubt it.V1Vr wrote: ↑Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:01 am [quote=blueskiessabove post_id=<a href="tel:1066954">1066954</a> time=<a
href="tel:1548316132">1548316132</a> user_id=67302]
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[quote=blueskiessabove post_id=<a href="tel:1066915">1066915</a> time=<a href="tel:1548291926">1548291926</a> user_id=67302]
Will get more if it's turned down, AC is scared that's why there coming at us with a 17 year contract. Nobody offers that long of a contract if there not worried about pilots. Wait why not lock it in for 17 years! LOL
Curious, when do you retire? I think I know who you are and if I'm right you stand to lose nothing if this is voted down.
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It's better to be the bigger person but karma will come to play. And I think I know who this new elected LEC is have fun.
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Thanks for the nice PM.
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I'm amazed you have a vote
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Title of the PM "Shitty FO"
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Re: 17 year TA?
V1Vr is so wrong in so many states. Blueskiessabove comments are funny though and tells it how it is but my vote still is a big fat NO!
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Re: 17 year TA?
Alaska Airlines Performance Pay
Seattle Times. "About 21,800 employees nationwide at Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air will share a total of $120 million in annual performance bonuses in their paychecks Friday, an average payout of approximately $5,500, the company said Thursday as it reported 2018 earnings. Employees in Washington state will get $66 million of that total."
Meanwhile AC offer to buy our vote for 17yrs ~ $1300
Haha
Seattle Times. "About 21,800 employees nationwide at Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air will share a total of $120 million in annual performance bonuses in their paychecks Friday, an average payout of approximately $5,500, the company said Thursday as it reported 2018 earnings. Employees in Washington state will get $66 million of that total."
Meanwhile AC offer to buy our vote for 17yrs ~ $1300
Haha
Hate me or Like me. Both days I get paid.
Re: 17 year TA?
Alaska, 298 aircraft including Horizon...all one corporation. Jazz currently 116...
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Sure would be nice to own your own flying, eh?TheSocialChameleon wrote: ↑Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:55 pm Alaska Airlines Performance Pay
Seattle Times. "About 21,800 employees nationwide at Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air will share a total of $120 million in annual performance bonuses in their paychecks Friday, an average payout of approximately $5,500, the company said Thursday as it reported 2018 earnings. Employees in Washington state will get $66 million of that total."
Meanwhile AC offer to buy our vote for 17yrs ~ $1300
Haha
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(Calin and other AC/Jazz exec’s sitting around having beers)
Calin: “We will offer those dumb jazz pilots wages slightly higher than they make now, but less than pre 2015 wages. Not only that we will offer those wages on a 17 year contract.”
Another exec: “you realize theoretically 16 years from now they will be working for compensation packages less than they would have been earning like 25 years earlier?”
Calin” yup, hahahahahahahahhahahaa”
All the other AC execs: “hahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha”
Calin: “We will offer those dumb jazz pilots wages slightly higher than they make now, but less than pre 2015 wages. Not only that we will offer those wages on a 17 year contract.”
Another exec: “you realize theoretically 16 years from now they will be working for compensation packages less than they would have been earning like 25 years earlier?”
Calin” yup, hahahahahahahahhahahaa”
All the other AC execs: “hahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha”
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Or alternatively.Yycjetdriver wrote: ↑Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:30 pm (Calin and other AC/Jazz exec’s sitting around having beers)
Calin: “We will offer those dumb jazz pilots wages slightly higher than they make now, but less than pre 2015 wages. Not only that we will offer those wages on a 17 year contract.”
Another exec: “you realize theoretically 16 years from now they will be working for compensation packages less than they would have been earning like 25 years earlier?”
Calin” yup, hahahahahahahahhahahaa”
All the other AC execs: “hahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha”
Calin: “I can’t believe they turned down the opportunity to consolidate the flying. Where is Russ Payton’s #?”
Another executive In Flight Ops: “Stupid idiots. Oh well draft a memo to HR - take Encore,WestJet,Sky, Georgian, CMA, PAL, Calm Air, Bearskin, Wasaya, First Air, Canadian North, anyone ahead of Jazz pilots. If they want to turn this opportunity down then f*** them.
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There is a cost to socialism . Canada has some of the highest taxes in the World . Carbon taxes , Nav Canada fees, YYZ with some of the highest landing feees in the World, a weak CAD makes A/c and mtce costs higher than the USA.TheSocialChameleon wrote: ↑Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:55 pm Alaska Airlines Performance Pay
Seattle Times. "About 21,800 employees nationwide at Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air will share a total of $120 million in annual performance bonuses in their paychecks Friday, an average payout of approximately $5,500, the company said Thursday as it reported 2018 earnings. Employees in Washington state will get $66 million of that total."
Meanwhile AC offer to buy our vote for 17yrs ~ $1300
Haha
The solution is to send a CV to Alaska Airlines.
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I'd go work in the USA in a heartbeat. Problem is, I can't. Same when people compare their regionals to ours. What's the minimum requirement again to fly equivalent machines? Oh right, 1500 hours and an atpl.tsgas wrote: ↑Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:10 pmThere is a cost to socialism . Canada has some of the highest taxes in the World . Carbon taxes , Nav Canada fees, YYZ with some of the highest landing feees in the World, a weak CAD makes A/c and mtce costs higher than the USA.TheSocialChameleon wrote: ↑Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:55 pm Alaska Airlines Performance Pay
Seattle Times. "About 21,800 employees nationwide at Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air will share a total of $120 million in annual performance bonuses in their paychecks Friday, an average payout of approximately $5,500, the company said Thursday as it reported 2018 earnings. Employees in Washington state will get $66 million of that total."
Meanwhile AC offer to buy our vote for 17yrs ~ $1300
Haha
The solution is to send a CV to Alaska Airlines.
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The entire airline community in Canada outside of Jazz is watching this vote guys. How do you think you'll be viewed if it passes? You'll be branded with this for years to come. You know you're allowed to say no right? You're born with a spine. Use it, or you're simply a Darwinian case study
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+1.800man wrote: ↑Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:48 pm The entire airline community in Canada outside of Jazz is watching this vote guys. How do you think you'll be viewed if it passes? You'll be branded with this for years to come. You know you're allowed to say no right? You're born with a spine. Use it, or you're simply a Darwinian case study
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Classy, what airline do you fly for?800man wrote: ↑Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:48 pm The entire airline community in Canada outside of Jazz is watching this vote guys. How do you think you'll be viewed if it passes? You'll be branded with this for years to come. You know you're allowed to say no right? You're born with a spine. Use it, or you're simply a Darwinian case study
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For years Jazz guys have been bashing other airlines for lowering the bar.
Now is YOUR chance to do something about it!
Now is YOUR chance to do something about it!
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I could care less what other people think.800man wrote: ↑Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:48 pm The entire airline community in Canada outside of Jazz is watching this vote guys. How do you think you'll be viewed if it passes? You'll be branded with this for years to come. You know you're allowed to say no right? You're born with a spine. Use it, or you're simply a Darwinian case study
Bringing the bulk of the AC Express contract under one contract will go a long way to stop the whipsawing that got us here in the first place.
The bulk of that flying will then fall under the contract with the best working conditions in the country, certainly on the regional side. Arguably we have the best contract in the country- pay not withstanding. Ask any Jazz pilot that has gone to AC and they will confirm this.
When the whipsawing stops, that is when the pay will go up. Voting this down will just perpetuate the ability to play one group off against another. Having a ‘spine’ as you say is helping to stop that.
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47north wrote: ↑Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:17 pmI could care less what other people think.800man wrote: ↑Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:48 pm The entire airline community in Canada outside of Jazz is watching this vote guys. How do you think you'll be viewed if it passes? You'll be branded with this for years to come. You know you're allowed to say no right? You're born with a spine. Use it, or you're simply a Darwinian case study
Bringing the bulk of the AC Express contract under one contract will go a long way to stop the whipsawing that got us here in the first place.
The bulk of that flying will then fall under the contract with the best working conditions in the country, certainly on the regional side. Arguably we have the best contract in the country- pay not withstanding. Ask any Jazz pilot that has gone to AC and they will confirm this.
When the whipsawing stops, that is when the pay will go up. Voting this down will just perpetuate the ability to play one group off against another. Having a ‘spine’ as you say is helping to stop that.
Best contract in the country, pay not withstanding. So your compensation package is the best minus the compensation. Makes sense, heck making money isnt the important part of working.
Can’t afford to buy a decent house, or feed a family decent meals, but my you should see my health care benefits.