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Re: Wil Jazz hire with instructing time only?

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Any reason why they wouldn't reply to someone with 4600+hrs 800+hrs multi turbine time with multi-crew and FMS experience? Application has been sitting for months. Done a few updates but nothing. I feel like I'm doing something horribly wrong but none of my friends can tell me what.
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joenm wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:05 pm Any reason why they wouldn't reply to someone with 4600+hrs 800+hrs multi turbine time with multi-crew and FMS experience? Application has been sitting for months. Done a few updates but nothing. I feel like I'm doing something horribly wrong but none of my friends can tell me what.
The thing you did horribly wrong was applying to Jazz. You should be applying to AC. In this market, you are overqualified for a regional carrier.
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Heres a question. Ill be sitting with a brand new ATPL soon. Instructed all of it and have basically no multi time (25hrs). However I have lots of single IFR time. COVID 19 aside and when the world is normal again.... How likely is it to get in?
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780Pilot wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:22 am Heres a question. Ill be sitting with a brand new ATPL soon. Instructed all of it and have basically no multi time (25hrs). However I have lots of single IFR time. COVID 19 aside and when the world is normal again.... How likely is it to get in?
Impossible. You need some sort of multi time or single turbine experience.
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Won’t be hiring for a very long time so if you can get any experience somewhere else I would do it. I doubt there will be any Jazz hiring this year for sure and 2021 is doubtful.
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Answer: nobody knows. Everything is speculation right now. Just never give up on your goals.
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780Pilot wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:22 am Heres a question. Ill be sitting with a brand new ATPL soon. Instructed all of it and have basically no multi time (25hrs). However I have lots of single IFR time. COVID 19 aside and when the world is normal again.... How likely is it to get in?
I can sympathize with your current situation, you busted your a$$ getting your licenses and hours up and now you’re pumped to finally expand your career. The unfortunate thing is our industry has taken a kick to the nuts and your timing is awful.

Let me push your question back to you and hear what you have to say....

“How likely / long do you think it’ll be to get into a company like Jazz where they just laid off 675 pilots. Who all have first rights to return to work before the company even remotely considers looking to the streets, especially ones with limited time and experience like what you’ve outlined above?”

I don’t mean to be harsh, but we’re all getting smacked with a dose of reality here.

Stay healthy.

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I can sympathize with your current situation, you busted your a$$ getting your licenses and hours up and now you’re pumped to finally expand your career. The unfortunate thing is our industry has taken a kick to the nuts and your timing is awful.

Let me push your question back to you and hear what you have to say....

“How likely / long do you think it’ll be to get into a company like Jazz where they just laid off 675 pilots. Who all have first rights to return to work before the company even remotely considers looking to the streets, especially ones with limited time and experience like what you’ve outlined above?”

I don’t mean to be harsh, but we’re all getting smacked with a dose of reality here.

Stay healthy.

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Yah its pretty shitty currently however things eventually will change. People cant afford to self isolate for weeks on end. Better use my connections I currently still have.
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faculties11 wrote: Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:45 am As the title states I'm sitting at 1000+ hrs.

Trying to figure out the next move.
All depends whether you score enough diversity points with Jazz. I have 1900 hours with ATPL signed off, 900 multi turbine time. Got PFOd. Personally, I though it was the best interview experience that I've ever had, and they seemed to like every answer I gave them....
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L1900Edge wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:58 pm
faculties11 wrote: Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:45 am As the title states I'm sitting at 1000+ hrs.

Trying to figure out the next move.
All depends whether you score enough diversity points with Jazz. I have 1900 hours with ATPL signed off, 900 multi turbine time. Got PFOd. Personally, I though it was the best interview experience that I've ever had, and they seemed to like every answer I gave them....
That’s pretty ignorant of you to assume and to comment that way. The interview is not the only piece of the decision either.
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L1900Edge wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:58 pm
faculties11 wrote: Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:45 am As the title states I'm sitting at 1000+ hrs.

Trying to figure out the next move.
All depends whether you score enough diversity points with Jazz. I have 1900 hours with ATPL signed off, 900 multi turbine time. Got PFOd. Personally, I though it was the best interview experience that I've ever had, and they seemed to like every answer I gave them....
Grow up. Theres plenty of rich white dudes running around jazz. With an attitude like that, it's no wonder you didnt get a call.
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Re: Wil Jazz hire with instructing time only?

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yhz41 wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:21 pm
L1900Edge wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:58 pm
faculties11 wrote: Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:45 am As the title states I'm sitting at 1000+ hrs.

Trying to figure out the next move.
All depends whether you score enough diversity points with Jazz. I have 1900 hours with ATPL signed off, 900 multi turbine time. Got PFOd. Personally, I though it was the best interview experience that I've ever had, and they seemed to like every answer I gave them....
Grow up. Theres plenty of rich white dudes running around jazz. With an attitude like that, it's no wonder you didnt get a call.
“Grow up” he says.

Then proceeds with that comment. At no point in this conversation was wealth or race mentioned until you assumed. Cmon man. Think before you hate.
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Goodman5 wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:29 pm
yhz41 wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:21 pm
L1900Edge wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:58 pm

All depends whether you score enough diversity points with Jazz. I have 1900 hours with ATPL signed off, 900 multi turbine time. Got PFOd. Personally, I though it was the best interview experience that I've ever had, and they seemed to like every answer I gave them....
Grow up. Theres plenty of rich white dudes running around jazz. With an attitude like that, it's no wonder you didnt get a call.
“Grow up” he says.

Then proceeds with that comment. At no point in this conversation was wealth or race mentioned until you assumed. Cmon man. Think before you hate.
"Diversity points"
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Re: Wil Jazz hire with instructing time only?

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L1900Edge wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:58 pm
faculties11 wrote: Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:45 am As the title states I'm sitting at 1000+ hrs.

Trying to figure out the next move.
All depends whether you score enough diversity points with Jazz. I have 1900 hours with ATPL signed off, 900 multi turbine time. Got PFOd. Personally, I though it was the best interview experience that I've ever had, and they seemed to like every answer I gave them....
Laughable. I started through the process about three weeks before the music started, and was due to have my Sim eval tomorrow - and as a middle-aged, straight white male, I'm about as un-diverse as it gets..
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Re: Wil Jazz hire with instructing time only?

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yhz41 wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:21 pm
L1900Edge wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:58 pm
faculties11 wrote: Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:45 am As the title states I'm sitting at 1000+ hrs.

Trying to figure out the next move.
All depends whether you score enough diversity points with Jazz. I have 1900 hours with ATPL signed off, 900 multi turbine time. Got PFOd. Personally, I though it was the best interview experience that I've ever had, and they seemed to like every answer I gave them....
Grow up. Theres plenty of rich white dudes running around jazz. With an attitude like that, it's no wonder you didnt get a call.
How much does attitude matter? seem to be a ton of miserable "captains" on avcanada
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fliter wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:32 am
joenm wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:05 pm Any reason why they wouldn't reply to someone with 4600+hrs 800+hrs multi turbine time with multi-crew and FMS experience? Application has been sitting for months. Done a few updates but nothing. I feel like I'm doing something horribly wrong but none of my friends can tell me what.
The thing you did horribly wrong was applying to Jazz. You should be applying to AC. In this market, you are overqualified for a regional carrier.
How quickly things change :(
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You probably have not noticed yet, but you may discover that the world of aviation in Canada is extremely competitive, and in fact, very very small. Things will come and bite you, and you will wonder how you never got a job flying that nifty, shiny C172. That advice is free, considering these times we live in at the moment.
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Re: Wil Jazz hire with instructing time only?

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vermont wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 8:17 pm
fliter wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:32 am
joenm wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:05 pm Any reason why they wouldn't reply to someone with 4600+hrs 800+hrs multi turbine time with multi-crew and FMS experience? Application has been sitting for months. Done a few updates but nothing. I feel like I'm doing something horribly wrong but none of my friends can tell me what.
The thing you did horribly wrong was applying to Jazz. You should be applying to AC. In this market, you are overqualified for a regional carrier.
How quickly things change :(
This person wasn't qualified for AC anyways. 4600tt with 1 year multi turbine experience (for sure right seat)
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Re: Wil Jazz hire with instructing time only?

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Assuming that hiring will happen next year (based on the other topic on this forum), what chances does a Class 1 Flight instructor with 2000+ hrs Multi IFR rated and ATPL have in applying for Jazz then?
Should I apply for other regionals and build more multi two crew experience, or stick with instructing until they're well into hiring?
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